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Seanad: Order of Business (20 Dec 2012)

John Crown: I extend season's greetings to my colleagues and the staff in Leinster House. There is one matter I did not have a chance to raise on the Order of Business although I alluded to it when the Minister for Health was present. I would like the Leader to get formal clarification from the Minister for Health of the status of public patients in hospital who do not have medical cards. To my shame...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Gardasil Vaccine (HPV) and Meningococcal Group B Vaccine: Discussion (20 Dec 2012)

John Crown: I will try to contain myself. Uniquely, I am probably the only person in this room who has ever had to tell somebody that she had cervical cancer and might die from it or might never have children again as a result of treatment. Uniquely in this room, I have heard people with tear-streaked eyes question whether they had this disease because they were infected with the virus. I would do all...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Gardasil Vaccine (HPV) and Meningococcal Group B Vaccine: Discussion (20 Dec 2012)

John Crown: I will make one final point given that we spend enough time in this room discussing raiméis. This issue is extremely important because if the wrong message is sent from this room, it could kill people. The argument is being advanced that we do not need vaccination because we have screening. This is a little like arguing that we do not need to prevent children from playing with matches...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Gardasil Vaccine (HPV) and Meningococcal Group B Vaccine: Discussion (20 Dec 2012)

John Crown: I am a witness for my patients, the women of Ireland to whom I have an obligation and those who elected me to espouse enlightenment values in this House.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Gardasil Vaccine (HPV) and Meningococcal Group B Vaccine: Discussion (20 Dec 2012)

John Crown: At least the Deputy is not shooting me.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Gardasil Vaccine (HPV) and Meningococcal Group B Vaccine: Discussion (20 Dec 2012)

John Crown: Does the Deputy have any facts to back up his assertions?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Gardasil Vaccine (HPV) and Meningococcal Group B Vaccine: Discussion (20 Dec 2012)

John Crown: That is an opinion piece. They are not data.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Gardasil Vaccine (HPV) and Meningococcal Group B Vaccine: Discussion (20 Dec 2012)

John Crown: I arranged that interview.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Gardasil Vaccine (HPV) and Meningococcal Group B Vaccine: Discussion (20 Dec 2012)

John Crown: The correct pronunciation is "causal".

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Gardasil Vaccine (HPV) and Meningococcal Group B Vaccine: Discussion (20 Dec 2012)

John Crown: I apologise for being obliged to step outside but I needed to raise an issue on the Order of Business relating to the charging of public patients. Perhaps Dr. Kelleher can explain a point to me. Other than cases in which the benefit of the doubt has been given, how many confirmed cases of serious life-changing damage from vaccines have really been proven in Ireland? I mean causally proven...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Gardasil Vaccine (HPV) and Meningococcal Group B Vaccine: Discussion (20 Dec 2012)

John Crown: A three month old cannot tell one she has a headache.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Gardasil Vaccine (HPV) and Meningococcal Group B Vaccine: Discussion (20 Dec 2012)

John Crown: When did it stop being used?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Gardasil Vaccine (HPV) and Meningococcal Group B Vaccine: Discussion (20 Dec 2012)

John Crown: My question was how many cases does Dr. Kelleher believe have had serious long-term damage as a result of vaccines in general in this country? He said there may have been 30 to 40 with the flu vaccine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Gardasil Vaccine (HPV) and Meningococcal Group B Vaccine: Discussion (20 Dec 2012)

John Crown: With ancient vaccines?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (8 Jan 2013)

John Crown: I thank my colleagues from the Medical Council for coming before the committee. First, will Professor Murphy provide a "Yes" or "No" to the question of whether he believes that the current situation, in which our practices are guided by the Constitution as determined by the will of the people in referenda and by the courts as opposed to through legislation, provides an adequate framework for...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (8 Jan 2013)

John Crown: If the Chairman does not mind, I will sit down. Obviously, the microphones were designed for shorter parliamentarians.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (8 Jan 2013)

John Crown: Indeed. Is the current situation adequately regulated? Is there a clear and present need for legislation? The argument that we do not need legislation has been advanced. My second point is more contentious and I will understand if Professor Murphy's answer is somewhat nuanced. Over the years, those of us in our profession who have watched Medical Council elections have been aware of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (8 Jan 2013)

John Crown: My questions have not been addressed. I specifically asked Professor Kieran Murphy if he believed the situation at present provides clarity or does it need to be addressed. Second, Professor Murphy said that the council exists to protect the public. It does, and in the interests of public protection he must answer my second question, which I believe he skipped. Did the council deliver any...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (8 Jan 2013)

John Crown: We have already established that when I stand up, the microphone does not work, so please do not see any disrespect if I ask my questions from a sitting position. I first want to thank the witnesses and, not only that, but also to commend them. They have made me a little prouder to be a doctor today. There was great clarity, honesty and conviction in what they said, and I consider this is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Implementation of Government Decision Following Expert Group Report into Matters Relating to A, B and C v. Ireland (8 Jan 2013)

John Crown: I hope the delegates will not assume any disrespect by my remaining seated. It seems I am too tall for the microphone. I have several questions for Professor Casey. I accept her evidence that suicide in pregnancy is rare as extremely credible and entirely within her professional competence. Her statement that there is a lack of evidence that abortion will ever end a suicidal tendency in a...

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