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Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: Chun ceist eile a chur, cen sainmhíniú atá ar functional bilingual?

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: B'fhéidir gur féidir teacht ar an gceist seo ar bhealach difriúil ar fad ach déanfaidh mé pointe amháin ar dtús. Is é an t-iarAire, an Teachta Brendan Howlin, a d'iarr ar na Ranna ar fad measúnú a dhéanamh orthu féin ó thaobh cé mhéad duine le Gaeilge a bhí ag teastáil uathu sna Ranna. Nuair a tháinig...

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: How would the Department for Public Expenditure and Reform do it? What direction would be given?

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: Therefore, it would not necessarily be just new entrants. It would be at all levels.

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: Sin an pointe agus sin an fáth go bhfuilimid anseo. Sin atá sna cinn Bille. Táimid ag rá go mbeidh sprioc de 20% ann agus táimid ag iarraidh a fháil amach inniu how the Department would do it. How would it get there?

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: With all due respect, Mr. Ó Caigne has just turned it around. The point I was making is that, if it is Government policy that we reach the 20% figure, the Department for Public Expenditure and Reform will have to give direction to the other Departments as opposed to Departments stating what is the demand and what they are seeking.

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: That is my point.

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: How was it done in that case? How is it done?

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: How would it be achieved from the point of view of gender balance? That would be a similar idea.

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: Tá dhá phointe le críochnú agam. Tá na finnéithe ag rá nach bhfuil an t-éileamh ó na Ranna Stáit an-mhór. B'fhéidir go bhfuil cuid mhaith den locht ar na Ranna Stáit chomh maith céanna. Ó thaobh an taighde a rinneamar, ó 2011 go 2017, níor iarradh ach go líonfaí 48 post le daoine a bheadh ina...

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: Yes.

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: Okay. Tá fadhb againn. Nuair a cuireadh an ceistneoir chuig na Ranna Stát ar fad, tháinig figiúir de 48 ar ais. Caithfimid ceist a chur. Cá bhfuil an fhírinne sna figiúirí seo? Níl mé cinnte. Tá an Roinn ag rá go raibh 73 duine fostaithe sna blianta 2015, 2016 agus 2017. Dúirt na Ranna ar fad go raibh 48 duine fostaithe...

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: Yes.

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: To be clear, the figures provided today are much higher than those we got from the Department.

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: I know that answer. We have heard it. I am asking whether the Department could do research to assess the real demand from people and citizens, as opposed to-----

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: Are there examples of the Department doing that type of research when other policies have been changed? When there was a move to using digital or online services, for example, did the Department conduct research among the populace?

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: I know it has not been done in relation to the Irish language. I am asking whether there are examples of similar research being done to gauge the potential demand for a change of-----

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: I will put it to Mr. Ó Caigne as a suggestion. I did some market research in a previous job. If one wants to gauge the need for a service, one engages a company to take a sample of the population and ask a number of questions about the types of services people would like to use. Potentially, one such question could be "would you use a service as Gaeilge if it was available?". That...

Joint Standing Committee on the Irish Language, the Gaeltacht and the Islands: Seirbhísí Dátheangacha: An Roinn Caiteachais Phoiblí agus Athchóirithe (21 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: Go raibh maith agat.

Seanad: Order of Business (16 Nov 2017)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: Tá muintir na Gaillimhe arís i mbun tóraíochta ar dhuine a chuaigh amach ón droichead ansin i nGaillimh. Unfortunately, another search and rescue operation is under way in Galway for a person who has been lost in the river. It has become a regular occurrence in the city in recent years. We hope that the operation is successful and commend all those involved in...

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