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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: We have received apologies from Deputy John Brady. Everyone is very welcome. I remind all those in attendance to ensure their mobile phones are on silent mode or switched off. Before we start, I wish to explain some limitations to parliamentary privilege and the practice of the Houses as regards references the witnesses may make to other persons in their evidence. The evidence of...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. McCarthy. As set out in the invitation, the Commissioner has five minutes for his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: I thank the Commissioner. The first committee member this morning is Deputy Catherine Murphy. She has 15 minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: Can the Commissioner confirm whether the case has finished?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: Is it done and dusted? If it is ongoing, I do not want it to be discussed.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: I ask Deputy Murphy to be careful around that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: I do not want the Commissioner to do so and that is why I am pausing proceedings for a minute. I do not want him to impair in any way the ongoing process of an individual case. However, the Deputy is asking whether the three monthly reviews always happen. Perhaps the Commissioner can answer on how the system works. I understand and I do not want the Commissioner to have a negative impact...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: Do the witnesses have a ballpark figure? Is it double figures or single figures?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: Okay. It could be in single figures.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: The law is black and white according to the reply.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: It is not being done. This is what I am saying. Could a circular be sent out by the Commissioner to each division to the effect that pending the introduction of the legislation then at least we could get them off footpaths. The reply to my parliamentary question said they are illegal in public places. This tells me they are illegal on roads as well. I do not belong to the lock them up...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: Has the legislation been signed by the President?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: It has been enacted.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: A circular should go out to every Garda division asking that they enforce the law around the use of e-scooters on footpaths, especially where there are school kids. Where my office is in Portlaoise there are many schools and people do go to school on them. If we issue that circular to An Garda Síochána it would be good.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: I know, but before you proceed, I want you to be careful. It was outlined that there is an ongoing process in relation to this matter. I will allow the Commissioner to answer but just be careful not to name anyone.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: There will be a second round, Deputy. I want to be careful with regard to the individual case because there is a report pending on it, is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Brian Stanley: I suppose the Deputies are wondering if there was proportionality in respect of what threshold the NCBI comes in at. That is the question here. On the face of it, it seemed to be a relatively small matter. It is about what point they come in at and the use of resources there.

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