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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: Mi casa es tu casa.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: Like I said in the interlude, I have no difficulty at all with that. I must confess I had never heard of it until the Cathaoirleach originally corresponded with me about it. It sounds like an interesting project. While the OPW would provide the venue, we are not book collectors. We are not the National Library or the National Gallery.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: I know, but that being said, if we have to get the National Archives or the National Library together with the OPW, I presume Kilkenny Castle would be the optimal location.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: I commit that we will hold a discussion between the OPW, the National Library, National Archives and Kilkenny Castle to see if this can be advanced.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: I will have to get back to the Cathaoirleach on the specifics. It could be the Office of Public Works if it is on an arterial drainage channel or it could be the local authority if it was handed over to it. We have developed a protocol in recent years in which post-completion is as important as completion. We want to make sure there is sufficient money for preventative maintenance....

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: No more than in Midleton, the Office of Public works and local authorities design the scheme according to the worst recorded event. That is why Arup is using data from Storm Babet in Midleton to make sure we design to the worst recent event. There is no point in not taking the metrics into account from the worst recent event, proceeding with something substandard and, in 18 months, when...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: Absolutely.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: Absolutely. There is no doubt it is a fantastic career. It is a challenging environment, however. There are some skills, particularly in stonemasonry, in the private and public sector. Only a handful of people in this country are able to work on the Corinthian and Ionic capitals on top of columns in Georgian buildings. Even transferring that knowledge ó ghlúin go glúin is...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: It is undervalued, to be honest.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: It is not on the one I read out anyway.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: If it is a Garda station it is, unless there is a lease, which is highly unlikely, or the Garda Commissioner wants to retain it for Garda purposes, and I will check that for the Cathaoirleach, which has happened in some parts of the country.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: We can come back to the Cathaoirleach on that.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: Without landing the organisation in it, the answer is "Yes". We are open to everything. We have Reginald's Tower-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: Absolutely. It is in our interests to get as many people through these buildings as possible. Whatever it is we engage with local communities on, whether it relates to Christmas markets, educational programmes or whatever, we are certainly open to anything that puts a greater number of people through buildings for educational purposes, once the integrity of the building is not in any way...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: In Waterford.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: Mount Congreve is not owned by the OPW but it is in a relationship with it. Mount Congreve is run by a trust. We support it and do a lot of work on it.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: If I had my way, and it is above my paygrade, many buildings in public ownership that add significant historical value to the country as a whole should be in the proper clean ownership of the OPW. I am not talking about Mount Congreve in isolation or any such site. Over the past 200-odd years, we have maintained the historical value of our building network. Some organisations, whether they...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: It is. It is magnificent.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: I was asked last night, for instance, why the home of Charles Stewart Parnell is not in the charge of the OPW. I said that it was a good question and if the person asking it found out the answer to come back to me.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(31 Jan 2024)

Patrick O'Donovan: We are not going to see it close down. I am sure, as Chairman of the finance committee, he will not allow it to be closed down.

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