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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: In September?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: You got told-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: You did not get the breakdown. In July 2022, 72 tickets were sold. It is on page 46 of the report.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Some 72 tickets in a month. It is just over two a day.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Can I ask about the revised strategy for 2019 to 2024 and future live events? I presume that is all parked now. There are no further live events planned by RTÉ at this stage.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Mr. Bakhurst might be able to shed light on this. When licence fee renewals and new licences fell off a cliff at the start of July and I got reply to a parliamentary question on 17 July showing there had been almost a one third fall off at the start of July, that coincided with RTÉ deciding to pull advertising of the TV licence on channels outside its own platforms. Was that decision...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Why?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: What were the total fees paid outside of RTÉ's own platforms for advertising in the year?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Yes.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: So for half a year, for the remainder of 2023, it would be about €100,000.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: We have lost €20 million in licence fee revenue since this started. It is a small outlet for a huge return. Would you not have thought of pivoting the message? It is not just RTÉ that benefits. Independent broadcasters and production companies from this too. You pulled the advertising. Was this strategic? Was it part of hoping that the licence fee would ultimately fail...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: -----and that you will ultimately get what you were looking for?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Was pivoting the message to say that it is not just RTÉ but independent producers working and living in people's areas and their local broadcasters considered as an alternative message?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: You did not refer to the fact that it is not just RTÉ that benefits.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: There is such a huge amount of income at stake and you made this unbelievable decision to pull advertising completely on RTÉ's lifeblood.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: If you are in the private sector and things are going against you, you dig in, you fight and you try to claw back your revenue.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Can you see why someone might think, when you have been trying to get rid of the licence for years and it has now fallen off a cliff, that you have thought to let it burn?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: What about the independent producers and broadcasters who also benefit? Were they considered at all?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: I believe you have decided to bring them back from 20 February on other platforms.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Brendan Griffin: Why was that decision made?

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