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Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: I accept that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: How long does Mr. Breslin think it will take?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: Where should the young girl who came to my attention over the weekend who may have had a reaction to the cervical vaccine go to get help?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: Is there a process in place in Mr. Breslin's Department?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: What I am trying to get to is that while all this is going on in the background, and I understand these have to be proven, the person on the ground is struggling to cope with this real issue and at the same time trying to get through the system.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: Is it something the Department will be examining in the future where there might be a more serious reaction that has life complications in the sense that the person's quality of life has changed? I am not talking about a swelling in the arm, a rash or something like that-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: -----but that there would be somewhere they could go to get early services while the proof issue is going on. I am talking about cases where somebody's life has changed. Obviously, it cannot be proved beyond reasonable doubt, and we are not talking about a court of law, but I imagine we would want to help where something like this has happened-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: -----get in early, do the intervention and make their life as comfortable as possible. Has the Department a process in place for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: Mr. Breslin would say they should go to the doctor but they may need other services.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: In this particular case this person now has chronic hip pain. She cannot walk and may need support to take her bag to school. How does she get to and from school? Her life has been transformed. She is on a serious amount of medication. While the family are struggling with that, and they have been to their general practitioner, the hospital and so on, there is no support from the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: Neither am I.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: The issue happened last year and I only became aware of it last weekend. My point is that a year later they are still struggling.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: I appreciate that, but I am not getting the answer I seek to my question. Is there a process in place whereby if something happens, somebody can say, "I believe I have had a reaction here. I have been to the doctor and the family needs support", and a team can go in and help the family? I get the impression that there is not. It is a case of going back to the doctor to get the proof and...

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: Regarding Mr. Breslin's work in overseeing the HSE budget of €12 billion, he is going from €200 million to managing a €12 billion portfolio, which I believe started on 1 January this year. Could he talk about the change management programme he mentions and the skills sets. Are there integrated financial accounting records? How is all of that being managed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: I also wish to hear about the skills set of the staff and the number of staff involved.

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: Has that not been rolled out?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: What is the position in that process?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: Can Mr. Breslin give a timeline from when it started? How long will it be until there is an integrated financial system?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: Are we talking about five or ten years?

Public Accounts Committee: 2013 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and 2014 Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38: Health
Chapter 13: Irish Blood Transfusion Service Pension Funding
(8 Oct 2015)

Áine Collins: This has been talked about already, but with an extra three, so we are talking about eight years to implement an integrated financial accounting system.

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