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Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I wish to touch on some of the points made on Committee Stage. This amendment relates to the role of the pharmacist, in particular. I understand the Irish Pharmacy Union has written to the Minister on the issue and is awaiting a response. I have noted that the Minister's thinking seems to be along the lines that the code of conduct for pharmacists covers this issue. I know that on...

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I support the amendment, the rationale for it and the points that have been made by my colleague, Senator Mullen. The ultrasound is a soundwave scan. It can determine the gestational age of the baby and can provide clarity for the doctors. Our amendment proposes that it should be necessary for the doctor to carry out the scan, but that it should be entirely a matter for the woman to choose...

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I second the amendment.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I second the amendment.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I second the amendment.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I formally second the amendment. There is very little to add to what my colleague, Senator Mullen, has said apart from the fact that an abortion itself can be very emotional-----

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: An abortion can be very emotional and can have long-lasting psychological consequences that can be serious. When the immaturity of a child is taken into that realm, then those consequences can be even more extreme, given that the girl will not have reached full emotional and mental maturity. That is why Senator Mullen outlined the Tusla rationale. That is important and it establishes the...

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: Without this amendment, an abortion can and will be performed right up to the point of viability on the basis of risks that can be averted in other ways. It can happen simply because a doctor considers the abortion to be "appropriate", even though it is in no way necessary. That is where subjectivity enters into this issue. The word "necessary" brings objectivity rather than subjectivity...

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I second the amendment.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I second the amendment.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I support amendment No. 13, which is a consequential amendment. Its objective, and that of the other amendment on section 12, which we discussed in detail on Committee Stage, was to mitigate or remove the unintended and potential consequences for disability discrimination contained within the Bill and ensure that there would not be abortion based on sex, ethnicity, or disability grounds. ...

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I second it.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: Cinnte, beidh mé breá sásta é sin a dhéanamh.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: That is a major worry. The research I quoted from the survey results points to how the public are not satisfied that this would be a universally-based system universally funded through the taxation system. It simply does not fit well with the public. The danger always runs that this will spiral. We have seen every year how politicians applaud the increase in funding to our health service....

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: Vótáil.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I will start on the last point around opinion polls. The opinion poll in question is the only one to have been taken on this issue since the referendum. If the Minister has so little faith in opinion polls, then why is the Government spending so much money on all sorts of internal polling to find out what people think and then issuing a policy based on what people think? That is what...

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: The service will be available for the first 12 weeks. One of the main concerns that I have is that, because the service will free, some women, although not all of them-----

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I am anxious to conclude. I want to add to what Senator Wilson said about the lovely pupils from Cavan. I hope they have a wonderful day. Senator Wilson was right that the Minister probably does resemble an elder schoolboy. He still has his youthful good looks. I think that was the point the Senator was trying to make. That is a compliment in case the Minister thinks we are attacking...

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: That is the essence of the amendment. This is a topic of grave concern and that is why the amendment has been tabled.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: The Minister is shaking his head, but no regulatory impact analysis was published with the Bill.

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