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Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: I second the amendment.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: I second the amendment.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: I second the amendment.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: I second the amendment.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: I second the amendment.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: I second the amendment.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: I second the amendment.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: I second the amendment.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: I second the amendment.

Seanad: Children and Family Relationships Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (30 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: I second the amendment.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: It is difficult to know where to start. I agree with much of what Senator Mullen said and with what Senator Zappone said. However, in all of this we need to be very mindful of the level of intolerance that there is among the gay ideological movement. I have used that phrase before and I have been criticised for it. Yet, this is all about ideology. I separate the case for individual gay...

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: This is a well-known case and the details relating to it are in the public domain.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: No, he is not and he is no longer CEO of Mozilla either. Why is that the case? It is because he happened to support the Proposition 8 movement in California - a very liberal state in the US - and gave $1,000 to support its cause of maintaining marriage as being between a man and a woman. Regardless of whether one agrees or disagrees with him, surely to goodness he was entitled to do as I...

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: Yes. Such atrocities must be condemned outright. It was very interesting that a person who tweeted a particular message on the day after the attack and was taken in by the police. I do not believe freedom of speech is unfettered. We need to be careful, respectful and tolerant but that must be the case on both sides. The latter is not the case at present. I advise Members to go on...

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: People have been directing certain comments to me. The kind of abuse involved does nothing in the context of encouraging respectful debate on a matter which is very fundamental in nature. I completely accept that this is a fundamental issue for people who are lesbian or homosexual and I understand why that is the case. I happen hold a different perspective and I am of the view that people...

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: The area of freedom of conscience warrants more from the Minister than sticking to the script. It is an issue. She knows it is an issue. As Minister for Justice and Equality, she has a particular responsibility in the area. We have seen, in Britain and in other countries, situations in which Catholic adoption agencies that were doing good work had to close. What will happen here in that...

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: Sorry; I did not catch that.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: I acknowledge Senator Norris's statement that in the Ashers Bakery case it was a set-up. People, in a provocative way, looked to get the response so that a case could be taken. That is not unique.

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: All I am saying is there have been many similar examples in this sphere. That should be obvious to all. Although the Minister says people can go to the Supreme Court or wherever to defend their position, we have not yet achieved a true republic in this country where people can access the courts.I have argued many times that the exorbitant legal costs have been ignored by subsequent...

Seanad: An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta) 2015: Céim an Choiste - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (27 Mar 2015)

Jim Walsh: Tairgim leasú a 3: I leathanach 5, línte 19 agus 20, "an tAcht um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Comhionannas Pósta), 2015" a scriosadh agus "an tAcht um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Pósadh a Athmhíniú), 2015" a chur ina ionad.I move amendment No. 3:In page 4, lines 19 and 20, to delete...

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