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Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I have one question. Are we doing working payments?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: So this is jobseeker's allowance and so on. Apologies, I was delayed. I am still on about a big policy issue all the time on why we are not facilitating more people who are on long-term jobseeker's payments onto schemes and to stay on schemes?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Okay, but which does this come under?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: What I am trying to do is move the people on jobseeker's, toforce the people who want to be more active off the jobseeker's and on to schemes. There seem to be places on the schemes and rules are holding up people staying on schemes. What is the policy position on this and has there been any change on the policy position on trying to encourage people to engage with the system? On the other...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I notice that the provision in the Estimate for people here from Ukraine has gone up for 2024. I would have thought the projection was that there would not be as many people coming in as previously, particularly with the recent Bill that the Minister has brought in. As the payments would not be as big and a larger number of these people would become engaged in the workforce, the provision...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I accept that more people came in during the last year and I presume that until the laws change, they will continue to come in in reasonably large numbers, and we might even get a rush of people trying to get in ahead of that. As opposed to that, I would have thought there was an outflow of people and it would be expected to continue over the coming year because they would take up employment...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The provision for children has decreased. I take it that has to do with a drop in the birth rate or is it the one-off payments?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: There is always a kind of process. How many one-off payments were there? This one was in regard to child benefit.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: How many were given in 2023?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Is there anything pencilled in for double payments?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: There was no increase in the child benefit either.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Okay. The fiction of the one-off Christmas bonus every year has not been provided for either.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: That is the way it is done every year. The money comes up and if it did not, the Minister would be in trouble, would she not? Even you appreciate that. I do not mean "even you", but the whole system appreciates that it will be given but it is never put in the Estimates for some mathematical reason in the Department and the Department of public expenditure and reform.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: This is important.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: One of the structural changes that I would be totally in favour of, and I wonder whether consideration was given to it, would be giving a double child benefit in September when children go back to school. When children go back to school, not only do they go back to school with all the attendant costs, but there are huge costs to joining all the various clubs, including for music, dancing and...

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The household benefits package includes mainly the so-called "free electricity", which is basically a cash payment to electricity companies on behalf of the recipients. Will the Minister outline how much is now paid per recipient and how has that changed in the past 10 years?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Am I correct that despite the soaring cost of energy and electric energy, in particular, the so-called "free electricity" allowance has not increased for a long time?

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: We are talking about ten years.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: What about in 2013? The number of pensioners has gone up considerably.

Select Committee on Social Protection: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 37 - Social Protection (Revised)
(7 Feb 2024)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Can we just go back? The person in receipt does not look at hundreds of millions of euro. They would like to know how much they individually get per two months against their bill and how many units of electricity that buys them.

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