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Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: Does Mr. Flaherty handle all the communications for the interim president?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: What is Mr. Flaherty's title again? It is chief -----

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: Was there an open recruitment process for that role?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: Was there a recruitment process?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: Who appointed Mr. Flaherty to that?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: Oh, I see. Can I ask the president if she has appointed other people without a recruitment process?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: There are currently three heads of finance on staff. There is Ms Fogarty, who is with us, Mr. Field and Mr. O'Brien. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: I have other questions on that that I might get to on a second round but I will conclude with the following. Professor Mey mentioned in her opening statement that the other protected disclosures are concluded and that terms and conditions were concluded with person C as well but that they had not yet signed, is that the case?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: During last night, person C made direct contact with me and has authorised me to say the following: Last night I read an article about the university meeting with the public accounts committee on 17 June 2021. I was sick to my stomach and shook by what the University of Limerick has said about me in the article and assume this is what they are going to tell the PAC about me. I believe...

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: I thank the Chairman. While he is absolutely correct, we have parliamentary privilege, which sometimes must be used in the interests of the public. It seems to me that we were lied to and misled that day. As Mr. Flaherty rightly said, the matter was the subject of a protected disclosure. I am conscious the interim president has acknowledged with candour the difficulties we have had in the...

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: No, Mr. Flaherty will not, with respect. What he can do is furnish the entire report to the committee, if he wishes, and I would like to formally ask for that. I am only interested in the areas that I have highlighted, which are the sum total of our engagement back on that day; I was misled, I was wronged in terms of the answer given and so were other people who were on the university...

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: Oh right. They were all formerly in that role though, were they not?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: Is the protected disclosure relating to the Dunnes Stores site currently under investigation?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: Did the witness mean Mairead McKenna?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: What is the reaction of the interim president to what I had to say about person C contacting me during the night and what I read into the record? It amounts to what was in her opening statement being inaccurate and false, "a lie" is what she called it.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: The witness can imagine how we feel, or can she?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: Professor Mey is saying one thing and we have been contacted and told the opposite. There is also, of course, the history and culture alluded to by the witness. Have any disclosers been asked to or coerced into signing non-disclosure agreements?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: Is anybody else aware of it?

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: No, I mean what I said. These are non-disclosure agreements, NDAs.

Public Accounts Committee: University of Limerick: Financial Statements 2019 (17 Jun 2021)

Marc MacSharry: Could I get a reply from Mr. Flaherty?

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