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Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (No. 2) Bill 2010: Second Stage (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: The other measure I welcome is that on vouched expenses. It means that people can prove where they spent their money. They can also prove that being in politics is a costly business. I do not subscribe to cutting pay so much that it provides an incentive either for corruption or for merely the wealthy to get into politics, but we must set an example at a time when everyone else has been...

Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (No. 2) Bill 2010: Second Stage (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: It is 19 minutes now.

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: ----- sought to cut €2 from the contributory old age pension, I would vote for it because, on balance, that might make it a little easier for some of the more vulnerable, as those who are also vulnerable, albeit slightly less so, might be able to take a small hit. However, no such amendments have been tabled; there is only opposition to the proposals. Let us now look at the opposition to...

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: It is not true to say the budget does not affect higher earners.

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: The PRSI ceiling is on the way out and higher earners pay more. Also, as I mentioned this morning, Deputies and local authority members are taking a cut in their pay, along with Ministers. Many people did not seem to be aware of this. I suggest that if parties cannot put forward a credible amendment that would ensure money is saved somewhere, they should explain from where the money will...

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: Fine Gael should put forward its amendment.

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: Deputy Noonan could have tabled an amendment.

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: And screw the economy.

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: Like Sinn Féin's relationship with the DUP in the North, we have to compromise.

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: There was no capitulation in education.

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: The PRSI cap was abolished.

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: On a point of order, there is a precedent for the Minister to elaborate on the wider context. The first amendment that was proposed to open up this debate involved opposing the entire Bill.

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: That is the point. A precedent has been set.

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: The Deputies opposite are talking about deleting everything, rather than making amendments.

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: All of the sections are being opposed.

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: Rather than a list of amendments, we have a list of sections that are being opposed.

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Committee and Remaining Stages (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: Before the Acting Chairman, Deputy Charlie O'Connor, took the Chair, I raised a point of order about whether a Second Stage debate was warranted because a perusal of the proposals regarding the various sections, including section 3, which is under discussion at present shows that by and large, sections are being opposed but very few amendments of substance have been tabled. Deputy Ring was...

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Second Stage (Resumed) (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: We were told then by the Minister for Finance, Deputy Brian Lenihan, that the worst was over. Hindsight is great but as we know now we are facing a €6 billion deficit. In that context it was always going to be difficult to prevent certain cuts in the education sector but I welcome that key initiatives we pushed for and which we promised we would remain in Government for have been...

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Second Stage (Resumed) (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: They may be, but they are members of a religious order which is well respected and which has educated many of the children of this country quite well. To have a relatively unprecedented approach by the religious in this country to urge people to vote for a budget-----

Social Welfare Bill 2010: Second Stage (Resumed) (9 Dec 2010)

Paul Gogarty: They recognise the imperative-----

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