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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is exactly the point I am coming to. We have the Taoiseach, the Minister and officials. Arising from all of that, and we know the scale of the money, the C&AG did a special report, which we are now discussing. As part of that report last year he would have to-ed and fro-ed to Mr. Ó Foghlú with his recommendations and Mr. Ó Foghlú's responses to those...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: So now Mr. Ó Foghlú is saying he has seen a summary of meetings and memoranda but three or four times today he has told us he has not seen the minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I have to be straight.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will be saying to all Accounting Officers that we should not have to drag information from them. We expect people to come in here and co-operate fully. I am amazed and I find it extraordinary that Mr. O Foghlú did not take it upon himself to see the minutes of the meetings at which several hundred million was being discussed between Mr. Ó Foghlú's Department and the...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Can I know definitely if minutes were taken?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is Mr. Ó Foghlú's job to be here.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: What were the summaries based on?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Do not read out the notes. We will ask for a copy of those notes in a moment. How many meetings were there? What dates were they on?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: What subsequent meetings happened?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Ó Foghlú's officials met again on 7 July 2009.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Carry on.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is the following year.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is four meetings so far.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: There were at least 15 meetings, from what Mr. Ó Foghlú has read out, yet he is saying he does not even know if there are minutes of those meetings.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Ó Foghlú is saying he cannot answer.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Has anyone beside Mr. Ó Foghlú seen or taken minutes of those meetings?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: We are dragging this out now. We are not finished. I am not eating into Deputy Cullinane's time. He is the next speaker. Has any of the people with Mr. Ó Foghlú seen them? This is very important. The letter Mr. Ó Foghlú got from the committee inviting him to this meeting since the Committee of Public Accounts was established made it very clear that when an Accounting...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Which was what year?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

Seán Fleming: The witnesses are here today to answer the Committee of Public Accounts about a special report by the Comptroller and Auditor General and they are telling me they have not checked the files to know whether there are minutes of meetings there or not.