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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: Is that for one project or a multiplicity of projects? Does it include outreach projects?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: Right.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: Was the €980 million also applicable to the full project and all of the ancillaries?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: Right.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: I do want to finish, although I know the Chairman does not believe it. The question I asked was what is incorporated in the figure of €1.74 billion, or whatever it is now as it keeps moving from hour to hour, as opposed to what was incorporated in the €980 million?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: They were not incorporated in the €980 million.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: On the same subjects.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: Does the Chairman find this very easy to understand?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: Yes. It might not be any harm if we got a printout of all of this and like-with-like comparisons.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: I know it was-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: -----but slides have a habit of moving on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: Not €1.7 billion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: They were not included previously.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: I have an idea too.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: I have one last question to clarify. I would like a graph on a single sheet to make the comparisons between the original estimated or projected cost, whatever it was, including the specification and the bill of quantities involved, and then to show the next step from €660 million, plus VAT of whatever the amount was, to €1.4 billion. I would like the graph to show the level of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: I am asking about the difference between the highest-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: I was given a different figure for that last week.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Children's Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (23 Jan 2019)

Bernard Durkan: I would like the figure and the explanatory sheet I described. Might the highest tenderer now feel disappointed given the problems that have arisen? Could the highest tenderer not say that, if its tender price had been accepted, there would not be such a vast amount of increase? Is it a fair enough assumption that the highest tenderer could say that?

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