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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will get that clarified.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Did I inadvertently give the impression that we had already circulated it?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will have that clarified and we will send a note to the members on the clarification.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: The accounts are displayed on the screen. The first accounts are those of St. James's Hospital. I would like to ask the Comptroller and Auditor General if the figure of €86 million is right.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: That figure should be in the billions.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will clarify that for next week. Maybe a decimal point is missing. I do not know. We will come back to this next week. Perhaps it is to do with how it is typed.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes. This was mentioned before. Vodafone and St. James's Hospital were fined by the Environmental Protection Agency, EPA, because of their failure to purchase and surrender carbon credits before the deadline. We encountered that some time ago. We asked the EPA's representatives about it when they appeared before the committee. It has now appeared in the financial statement for St....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: So the figure of €381 million-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Exactly.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is fine. We will note that as well as the issue of non-compliant procurement to which our attention has been drawn and the EPA fine. No. 4.2 is the clear audit opinion for the National Council for Curriculum and Assessment. The item following that, No. 4.3, is Pobal's 2018 accounts, which also feature non-compliant procurement. We will send the standard letter to Pobal regardless...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Very helpful.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: For the record, we did a report on the visit and published our findings as part of our periodic report. Everything was above board, fully transparent and we issued a proper report when we came back on the activity. We will ask the secretariat to look at provisional arrangements and we can come back to them. We will give them the clearance to examine the matter. That is agreed. I do...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I want to clarify one matter on our work programme for next week. Representatives of Pobal will be here next Thursday to deal with Pobal's annual financial statements. It works for various Government Departments. Its main Department is the Department of Rural and Community Development. I inadvertently suggested that we would be dealing with Chapter 16 - Early Learning and Childcare...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: We have two sessions today. This afternoon, we will meet representatives of the HSE to discuss primary care centres and other matters. This morning, we are dealing with 2018 financial statements of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board. As we last met representatives of the board on 16 May 2019, it is timely that we are engaging with them again on the management of the...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Can Mr. Barry explain who or what those groups are as the public would have no concept? We thought Mr. Barry was over the children’s hospital project and programme steering group and now he tells us otherwise.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: What is the name of the board that oversees the steering group?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Barry reports to the steering group which reports to the board.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: Where does the Department of Health come in?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am sorry to interrupt but the public are totally confused about all these different titles when there are so many groups involved.

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