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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: My apologies for being late. I will explain later on. Are the minutes of the meeting of 11 December 2013 agreed? Agreed. We will deal with matters arising from the minutes. The CRC contacted the clerk to inform him that following the resignation of the board of governors and the chief executive on 13 December 2013, John Cregan of the HSE is now acting interim administrator for the CRC...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: There was some issue around those but that has been resolved now and we are going to have the information as requested brought to us.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Yes. Next, we will deal with correspondence received since the meeting on Thursday, 12 December 2013, beginning with correspondence from Accounting Officers or Ministers. No. 3A.1 is correspondence, dated 12 December, from Mr. Robert Watt, Secretary General, Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. It relates to further information requested at the meeting on 3 October 2013. Were all...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: No. 3A.2 is correspondence dated 12 December from Mr. Peter Brazel, remuneration, industrial relations and pensions division, Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, re follow-up from 27 November and 11 December. This is to be noted and published. This is relevant to today's meeting, at which we will deal with the unauthorised payments to staff under section 38. No. 3A.3 is...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: When Mr. Maloney took over, did he look at the previous activities of the board?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Did Mr. Maloney find a peculiar culture around all of this travel?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Even at that stage, there was no acceptance of that type of activity.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Accordingly, credit cards would not be used widely.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Did Mr. Maloney find it peculiar for the board to pack its bags and head to San Sebastián and other places, even though it was only one visit?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Is Mr. Maloney claiming that before his arrival and during his tenure at the authority, it was run as a financially tight ship.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Who was there before Mr. Maloney?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Why was it necessary for Mr. Maloney to make that clear?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: Were business class arrangements widespread before this?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: I cannot give Mr. Maloney the evidence. I am seeking it.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: I am giving the outline of media reports after 2009. I would like Mr. Maloney to comment on them as they seem to reflect on part of his tenure at the authority. I ask for his indulgence and hm to send it to the committee.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: I thank Mr. Maloney.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: May I change tack a little bit? I am trying to get an idea of what was going on within the DDDA board and Mr. Maloney's staff at that time. We understand what has been happening to the property deal and the intricacies of the valuations and so on, but Mr. Maloney was responsible for the general budget and performance of the company. Looking back on the various reports we have had on the...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: There were a number of reports. For example, there is one headline that says that staff and executives spent €500,000 on DDDA credit cards. I am only asking because sometimes these reports can lack full information. I am not saying that this one does but I am just asking, because it was in the public domain, if Mr. Maloney can tell us what was happening there. It specifically...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: What years was Mr. Maloney there for?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 77 of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Dublin Docklands Development Authority: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Dec 2013)

John McGuinness: This information was obtained under FOI. It says clearly - and it was on Mr. Maloney's watch in 2007 - rugby World Cup and large quantities of wine purchased for board meetings. The analysis here is of credit card receipts that were sought under FOI, so there has to be some truth to it.

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