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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: The second matter was to get some information in regard to the section 39 reports. We have not got anything back on that yet. What is the status of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Can we check out the position of the Committee on Public Accounts in regard to section 39 bodies, if we intend having a hearing on any one of them?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Perhaps we can ask the HSE to check on that and let us know the status.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Can we agree our agenda for Thursday, 23 January? The committee will meet the Accounting Officer of the Garda Síochána for examination of the 2012 annual report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, chapter 7 - management of the fixed charge notice system. Is that agreed? Agreed. When we meet next week, one of the issues we will have to consider at our 6 p.m. meeting is the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: We will now deal with No. 7, 2012 Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Vote 39, Health Service Executive, section 38 agencies remuneration. Before we begin, I ask members, witnesses and those in Public Gallery to turn off their mobile telephones as they affect the sound quality of the transmission of the meeting. I also advise witnesses that they are protected...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 39 - Health Service Executive
Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012
Section 38 - Agencies Remuneration
(16 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: I welcome Mr. Peter Brazel from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. I invite Mr. Conlan to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Today we are meeting Mr. Brian Conlan, former CEO of the Central Remedial Clinic, and we will question representatives of St. Vincent's Healthcare Group in our second session. Representatives of the HSE will also attend our meetings. We must deal with correspondence received late yesterday evening from the HSE regarding the funding of the pension of a previous CEO of the CRC, Mr. Paul...

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: I have one question for Ms Tallon on her statement. She said: "It was also critical to ensure appropriate arrangements for engagement with the local authority sector and a water service transition office was established by the County and City Managers' Association and funded by the Department." How much did that cost?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Is that ongoing? It is finished now, is it?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Can the Department let us have the details on that - who served on it-----

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: -----and how it racked up €5.7 million in costs - that type of thing, so we can look at it?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: How did they find the time to do that?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: But they are so busy with their county manager business-----

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: I thank all of the witnesses for coming along. I appreciate that Mr. Tierney has been here for four hours. The fact of the matter is that we have clarified quite a lot. I ask them to come back with the information that they have committed to providing. I also ask the Department to supply a breakdown of the €5.7 million figure and its views from the next MAC meeting, which I think...

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: I would not dare enter there. It is just your views I am looking for, because it is your view that informs the Minister. "Is that not right, Minister? Yes, Minister." Thank you very much.

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: I put it to you Ms Tallon that the Comptroller and Auditor General, as an independent office, represents it far better.

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: You have not given it a cent, so there is no need to worry about it.

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: How can you say there is no Exchequer money in it?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Where is it coming from?

Public Accounts Committee: Oversight of Irish Water: Discussion (15 Jan 2014)

John McGuinness: Where does that money come from?

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