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- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: How did you reach the figure of €2 million? It was €1 million. I know you have made reference to it before, but there were no costings on it. There was no background analysis apparently, to which we can refer, that would show us that the €2 million was better than €1 million. Obviously, €2 million is better than €1 million. How did you decide it?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: Are you less serious when you offer €1 million? I would consider that to be a big figure.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: No, do not confuse the story. Maybe it is my fault. Maybe I am confused about some of the conclusions being drawn from what is happening now, and what went on back then. What went on back then was that nobody knew the detail. It took a long time for that detail to find its way to paper. Protocols were spoken about here in terms of how the decision was reached. I do not know any other...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: No, we will keep it simple. I am asking you the question. Did you commit to €2 million per year, including his salary, as part of this? It is a yes or no answer.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: What does "committed" mean?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: No. Saying "I intend to do something" is different from saying "I am committed to do it".
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: It is a letter of intent that you are committed to doing this, because Trinity College says it is not in a position to fund the proposal. That is what it what it says in this report.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: That is what you are saying today.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: I do not see it anywhere at the time.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: Okay. Sorry, I meant to quote this on page 9. It says here that, "It further proposed that the salary etc.would be paid to Dr Holohan by the Department of Health until his retirement in June 2032." You are saying that is not the case, and the salary was being paid out of the €2 million.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: If you had a letter of intent, you would be covering every single angle of this so there would be no misunderstanding on either side.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: That would be based on the fact-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: There is €2 million here. There is €20 million committed over the years.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: No, it is not up to anyone. It is in the letter.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: If you put something in a letter of intent, it leads to a commitment.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: Through your letter of intent, you were going to lead to a commitment for €2 million a year, which would be more than €20 million for the ten years. Is that correct?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: Just tell me "Yes" or "No". Is that correct?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: However, you did not write that down.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: You did not tell Martin Fraser. You did not tell the then Taoiseach, the Minister, Deputy Micheál Martin. You said you told Deirdre Gillane; you did not tell Deirdre Gillane.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
John McGuinness: You have, but I have to say-----