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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: Yes. Just note it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: I wish to comment on the Comptroller and Auditor General's opinion of the audits that have been done. There was a report that the Comptroller and Auditor General was working on where the issues were being compartmentalised. Was that submitted to the Chairman?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: Are we going to set some time aside to discuss that and see what areas we want to prioritise?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: Perfect.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: I welcome the fact that some of the institutes of technology are in there. I have raised the point before that several of them are running significant deficits, which they are not allowed to do. We need to examine why that is the case.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: I welcome Mr. Doyle and his team. Mr. Doyle and I were in the same class in secondary school for a number of years.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: What went wrong?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: Something went wrong. I wish to start with the public service provision payments. Currently there is a lot of focus on what is happening in Bus Éireann and a lot of concern around the industrial relations issues, which I know Mr. Doyle cannot and will not comment on here today. However, I wish to establish the Department's role in terms of Bus Éireann. I also want to deal with...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: It was €45 million. What were the figures in 2011 and 2012? Does Mr. Doyle have all the figures?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: There was a significant decrease from €45 million to €34 million.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: What was the reason for the decrease in the subvention?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: We are dealing now with-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: It was €45 million in 2010 and it was €36 million in 2015. The difference might be even greater when increased costs and inflation are factored in. My point is that there has been a significant cut in the Bus Éireann subvention since 2010. Obviously, there has been a slight increase in recent years, but there is still a substantial difference between the 2010 figure and...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: Are there any plans to increase the subvention to bring it back to the 2010 level, at least?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: I am asking specifically about Bus Éireann at the moment.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: Will Mr. Doyle tell me how the subvention is calculated?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: The NTA has said in a report that it cannot legally provide extra funding to the struggling Expressway routes. Will Mr. Doyle or the other officials in the Department provide details of the legal impediments that mean this is the case? Has the Department sought advice from the European Commission or any other authority on the legal impediments that may or may not be in place to prevent the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: I understand the commercial aspect of it. My question relates to the NTA's statement that it is not legally possible to provide certain funding. Has the Department sought an opinion on whether the NTA's statement is correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: Given that Mr. Doyle is from Waterford, I assume he will be aware that the Expressway service from Waterford to Dublin has to make eight stops, whereas the private operators have to make just two stops on the same route. It is not necessarily a level playing field. I have mentioned just one example. There are other examples. The CIE express service cannot use the full motorway, whereas...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(23 Feb 2017)

David Cullinane: It is not an agreement. Bus Éireann is not allowed to offer an Expressway service that bypasses certain towns. It is very clear that the Expressway service run by CIE has to stop in these destinations.

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