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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (3 Jul 2014)

John Deasy: When the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport was before the committee, the Road Safety Authority, RSA, was also present. I asked it to provide us with information on an analysis of causation of accidents, in particular blood alcohol levels. The committee asked the RSA to provide us with the information. Did we send a formal request? If we did, perhaps we could follow it up and try...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Business of Select Sub-Committee (1 Jul 2014)

John Deasy: This will not take long and I appreciate this opportunity to give notice that I will table amendments on Report Stage. Their substance concerns Part 6 of the Bill, relating to the Ireland Strategic Investment Fund. In essence, I seek to ensure this fund takes account of balanced regional development. When the fund is in place via legislation the agency administering it should pay due...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: I thank the officials for their response. The Secretary General has provided a basic explanation and has used the figure of 4,600 units to begin with, of which 1,900 are suitable. A total of 750 of these have been resolved and the Department hopes a further 1,000 are to be resolved and will be added to this and used for all intents and purposes. What is the timeline involved?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: This is part of a major issue being faced by this country, namely, the availability of housing in general, and social housing is a big part of that. I read some figures yesterday suggesting that while it is necessary to build 25,000 units per annum, only 6,500 are being built per year. Consequently, there is a time element involved, even though it represents a small percentage of these...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: What does that mean? I refer to the private element Mr. McCarthy has just mentioned.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: The Department is kind of searching. If it uses the Ireland Strategic Investment Fund as a vehicle, it will be seeking private equity from outside the country, if necessary, to match that public funding to build houses.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: That is the direction being taken.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: In other words, we effectively cannot afford to do it ourselves.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: It rolls over the same fund.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: What reason is there for the groups not spending the money?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: It is not a good idea for the money not to be spent when we have a recession. That is not ideal.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: What is the reason for that? Mr. McCarthy understands where I am coming from. The sum of €50 million is a considerable amount. It is not being spent but is being rolled over and is going into the same fund. One of the problems we have in the country currently is that money is not moving. People are not spending money. That amounts to a great deal of GNP. The Department has...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: The benefits of it are evident.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: Based on the tweaking done by the Department, it is expected that a lot more projects will come on stream and be finalised.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: Given that the spend was €44 million in 2012, does Ms Moylette have any idea of what it will be in 2013?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: I thank Ms Moylette. I have one last question on NAMA. I do not know if anyone else has asked the question. NAMA comes before the committee all the time and we have inquired about social housing for some years. NAMA has been very slow to release properties. Could Mr. McCarthy give an explanation from the Department’s point of view as to why that is?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: Could Mr. McCarthy define “wrong place”?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: That is very vague and they took the chain which was passed on to the new mayor from the previous town council. The Department needs to examine this issue. These groups are very democratic; they are not political. There is a mayor; thousands of people in Clonakilty believed it was important enough to show up and vote. There is a lacuna in this respect in the Department because there is a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: How much is the total bill for the Tribunal of Inquiry into Certain Planning Matters and Payments, the Mahon tribunal?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 4 - Vote Accounting
Chapter 10 - Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
Chapter 11 - Costs of Land Remediation
Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
(26 Jun 2014)

John Deasy: How many outstanding claims for costs are there?

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