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Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: How many other deals were done by RTÉ with Mr. Kelly's business where he was asked to use a company from abroad that he had never heard of before?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: At the time, Mr. Tubridy looked for written assurances in respect of any further pay cuts in his 2020 contract. Did he seek a written letter regarding that?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: I thank our guests for the earlier session.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: It was very constructive. I will follow on from Deputy O'Sullivan's line of questioning. RTÉ previously stated that it never made cash transactions to the barter system for presenters and that this situation was particularly unusual. It outlined that the primary use was for media companies in exchange for goods and services. Has Mr. Kelly ever made any cash payments through the...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Why were you-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Why would Mr. Kelly not make a cash transaction through a barter system?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: We know from earlier this morning that in 2018, Mr. Kelly used Astus for a transaction for his charity.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: That was clarified this morning, was it not?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: I am sorry.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: I will retract that statement. As I previously examined this morning, RTÉ raised an invoice with Mr. Kelly's company, CMS, for payment by a third-party company, Astus, which Mr. Kelly did not know and which RTÉ had never previously dealt with. Mr. Kelly was under the instructions of the commercial manager, Geraldine O'Leary, not to put Mr. Tubridy's name on the invoices. Is that...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Does that not sound bizarre to Mr. Kelly? A note on the invoice sent to Geraldine O'Leary clearly stated "Do not put any person's name on the Invoice". Did Mr. Kelly ask the commercial manager to do that?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: We have seen the email that went to Geraldine O'Leary with a note that said not to put any person's name on the invoice. Did Mr. Kelly instruct that?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: This was sent to Geraldine O'Leary.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Did Mr. Kelly instruct that person to not put a name on the invoice?

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