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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: That is very interesting work. I thank Ms Keane. I invite Ms Orla Hanahoe, principal of Scoil Cnoc Mhuire, to make her presentation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I thank Ms Hanahoe. It is always good to hear another perspective, in this the point of view of all of the children within a class and a school. I invite Ms Mary Byrne, head of special education in the NCSE, to make her presentation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: If witnesses wish to make further comments in written form, or wish to provide further documentation, they should feel free to send it to the clerk.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: A welcome guest.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I have a few short questions. I will be specific about who I am addressing. Mr. Harris talked about the provision of additional therapies. Is he suggesting that it be offered during the school day? Should it be timetabled during school time for the students concerned? Mr. Harris also said boards of management should explore other options before recommending that an autistic student with...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: Deputy Catherine Martin and I taught in DEIS schools, so we have that experience as well. There will be an opportunity for a supplementary when everybody is finished. I thank Ms Hanahoe. What she has described is harrowing but it is realistic. It is a true picture and that is what we need to hear.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I thank Ms Keane.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I thank Mr. Joyce.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I invite Dr. Muldoon, the Ombudsman for Children, to make his presentation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I now move to the Department of Education and Skills. We have Ms Mary Cregg, principal officer in social inclusion and Mr. Eddie Ward, principal officer in special education. Ms Cregg is going to make the opening statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I thank Mr. Kelly for the clarification that a reduced timetable should be considered to be a suspension and recorded as such. It is the first time we have received that clarification. Further to Deputy Jan O'Sullivan's question about data, it seems clear that the Department has not been collecting data for reduced timetables. Why are they not collected? At our meeting two weeks ago...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I will allow those members who have indicated to ask a supplementary question once Ms Cregg has finished.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I thank Ms Cregg. Would Mr. Ward like to come in?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I thank Mr. Ward. He referred to evidence-based policymaking. I understand that there is much evidence here, but based on the fact that data have not been collected, I believe there is not enough evidence to go forward.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I did say I would allow quick supplementary questions. I call Deputy Byrne.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: No, but I am going to come back to this.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I call Deputy Catherine Martin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: On a point of clarification, Ms Cregg mentioned that school principals report to Tusla on the issues that we have discussed. The Department, however, seemed to be out of the loop on that. Will she please clarify that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I thank Ms Cregg. Does Mr. Ward have any other comments to make?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Use of Reduced Timetables: Discussion (Resumed) (13 Jun 2019)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I call Mr. Kelly.

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