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Public Accounts Committee: Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure (Resumed)
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(16 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: I will be very brief as we have already been here for two hours. I thank you for your testimony today. I do not know what else to say. It was difficult to listen to and as I can only imagine how difficult it is for yourselves and your families to go through this, I thank you. I have a comment and two brief questions. My comment relates to what you said earlier about the wrangling...

Public Accounts Committee: Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure (Resumed)
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(16 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Before that, can we return to the questions around the current situation of trying to get documentation and when Vicky became aware of the State Claims Agency?

Public Accounts Committee: Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure (Resumed)
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(16 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Did anybody tell you that it was the laboratory that was insisting on the non-disclosure?

Public Accounts Committee: Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure (Resumed)
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(16 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: What is the current situation with getting documentation from CervicalCheck?

Public Accounts Committee: Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure (Resumed)
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency (Resumed)
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE (Resumed)
(16 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Was that to release documentation relating to other women?

Written Answers — Department of Finance: Banking Sector Remuneration (16 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: 18. To ask the Minister for Finance when the report on bankers' pay will be published; the person or body authorising same; if it will make recommendations on the future of the super tax on bonuses; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [21448/18]

Written Answers — Department of Finance: EU Budget Contribution (16 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: 24. To ask the Minister for Finance the way in which he will ensure Ireland receives a fair return on its EU contribution in the coming years; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [21449/18]

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Mr. O'Brien just stated that he knew there was a communication process about to commence. We now know that the communication process was through a circular. When did Mr. O'Brien first become aware of the circular? When did he first set eyes on that particular circular?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Mr. O'Brien was not aware that the circular left it to the discretion of consultants to inform women.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Mr. O'Brien stated the other day before the health committee that he does not take full responsibility but that he does accept some. What is Mr. O'Brien responsible for?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: No. I want to know what Mr. O'Brien takes responsibility for.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Who are those persons?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Who are those persons?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: What action has Mr. O'Brien taken in respect of those individuals?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Doing what?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: So the people who were a part of the problem the first day are now the ones we are relying on, in part, to fix the problem.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Perhaps Mr. O'Brien can answer this question because he said there is a distance between a systemic failure and a systems failure. Will he very briefly point out the differences between a systemic failure and a systems failure?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: Is that not a systemic failure on foot of the fact that the decision was never taken to tell them? The decision was made to give discretion to consultants to inform them.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: No, we do not.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Jonathan O'Brien: As the director general, Mr. O'Brien is responsible for systemic failures but not systems failure.

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