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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: The comments about Console? Mr. Kelly just said he never made those comments.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: If Mr. Kelly cannot recollect making the comments, how can he say they are taken out of context? That is a logical question given what he has just said.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is fine. Maybe we will ask Mr. Culhane about these serious allegations because there was lots of personal gain in the Console case. If it is being suggested that what happened in Console happened in Templemore. Mr. Kelly is happy it did not happen and there was no gain. I ask Mr. Culhane if he can recall who gave him the information he put in his letter. In the same letter, at...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Culhane said Mr. Kelly told Superintendent McCabe there was evidence of fraud, not that he looked for fraud. Mr. Kelly is quoted in the letter as saying there was evidence of fraud. I just want to know if this is authentic. I know it is hearsay as Mr. Culhane did not hear it himself. We cannot have these letters from a most senior Garda official hanging out there without being tested...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: Did Mr. Kelly have any evidence of fraud?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----closing the door to fraud.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is Mr. Culhane in a position to contact the persons who gave him the information he included in his letter and check their recollection? This is third party information which he included in the letter because it was relayed to him. It is hearsay and putting hearsay in letters such as this poses a serious risk. Mr. Kelly indicated that most of the allegations Mr. Culhane has made about him...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Culhane's letter makes seven points relating to handcuffs, Console, bank accounts, evidence of fraud and other issues. He put these matters in a letter in response to the draft interim audit report. I want Mr. Culhane to produce evidence about how he came to write that letter. It is a serious letter and we need to see how he came to write it and what evidence or information he had to...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will come-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is hearsay. I have pointed out how dangerous it is to send letters that are substantially based on hearsay. The audit report is based on facts and evidence and the contrary letter - we are now fairly well satisfied - is based on hearsay. Mr. Culhane might be able to back it up. I am not saying he will not but we need to be able to get to the bottom of it. What is important about this...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. Howard elaborate? What does he mean by his concerns? We are formally requesting a copy of that letter from whoever is responsible, and the reply.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Howard has the floor on this one.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: From 1 May.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: Did Mr. Howard receive a response to that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: Who would have a copy of that? Is Mr. Nugent able to source those letters and the Commissioner's response?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: I have a difficulty as Chairman talking to somebody offline because it is unfair to the other members. Mr. Nugent might write to us expressing his concerns-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----rather than having an unminuted private conversation.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: I ask Mr. Nugent to give a considered response.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is the response to Mr. Howard's letter.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Seán Fleming: I have harped on this letter a number of times in the course of the meeting. I thank Mr. Howard. I have expressed grave concerns about this type of a letter with so much hearsay in it. I am asking for evidence to back it up or it will have to be withdrawn. It is a serious issue if it has to be withdrawn after it has been put out there during this process. Mr. Howard has indicated he came...