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Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 28 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
Chapter 29 - Clinical Indemnity Scheme
2012 Annual Report and Accounts - National Pensions Reserve Fund
(13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I welcome all the witnesses and I invite the Comptroller and Auditor General to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: We have also received correspondence dated 6 February 2014 from Deputy McDonald requesting a meeting on access for the domestic SME and micro business sectors to public procurement contracts. This is to be noted. It is a matter for the public procurement service which is under the remit of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. We had a meeting with the Office of Public Works...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Item No. 3B.3 is correspondence from Deputy McDonald and Deputy Ross which we dealt with earlier. We will return to it as soon as we get the information required. Item No. 3B.4 is correspondence dated 2 February 2014 from Mr. Eugene Mitchell, Ballinasloe, County Galway, regarding the ongoing flood damage to premises, which will be noted. We have received previous correspondence from Mr....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Does it cover the fund?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Is that not what Deputy Creighton is looking for?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: It asks that we examine the funding that goes to support political parties. She is not asking for an audit of the political parties but about how the fund itself is audited. Can we get a note on that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: In the course of the Comptroller and Auditor General's audit?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Can we seek a note from the Accounting Officer responsible for the actual spending on political parties rather than a note on the policy issues? We can direct the policy issues to the appropriate Department.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Yes, a note on the actual spend, that is, on the figures. We will ask for that and then the committee can decide what it wishes to do after that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: We will now deal with documents related to today's meeting, namely correspondence dated 7 February from Mr. Adrian O'Donovan of the NTMA with briefing papers for matters to be considered. These papers are to be noted and published. We received further correspondence on 11 February from Mr. Adrian O'Donovan with an opening statement which is to be noted and published. Since our meeting on 6...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I suggest that the above accounts be noted but that we will seek a note from the OPW and the Department of Justice and Equality on the steps taken to deal with the excess accommodation at the Law Reform Commission, where there is ineffective expenditure. We will seek that note from them. On our work programme, are we finished with the matters relating to Waterford Regional Hospital?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Are there any comments on the work programme or any other business members wish to raise? Can we agree the agenda for our meeting on Thursday 20 February, which is to examine the 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts, Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners, with specific focus on chapter 3 - revenue collection, chapter 24 - management of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 28 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
Chapter 29 - Clinical Indemnity Scheme
2012 Annual Report and Accounts - National Pensions Reserve Fund
(13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: We will now deal with No. 7, the 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts: chapter 2 - Government debt, chapter 28 - accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency, chapter 29 - clinical indemnity scheme, and the 2012 annual report and accounts of the National Pensions Reserve Fund. I remind members, witnesses and those in the Visitors...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: We want to examine this and that is why I am asking that we get the details, so that we have the full report, to which the Deputy referred, and any other up-to-date details that might exist in regard to the spending of that money. On foot of that information, we can make that decision ourselves. We can ask the Accounting Officer, as it is taxpayers' money. I ask that this is made available...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: It has not indicated how many are compliant.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Can we seek that information before the HSE appears before the committee so that it is not new to us on the day and that we have a clear picture of what is going on in that regard?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: That is why I am asking for detailed information before this meeting because we need to examine it prior to the meeting. Also, in regard to section 38s, have we given notice to the board members of the CRC and to the remuneration committee of the wish of committee members that they would appear before us at some stage when this report is done? Does that require to be done?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Can we put them on notice?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: We will write again to Mr. Goulding. Can we send him transcripts of the meetings we have had so far requesting the information Deputy Harris outlined because we will require all of this for the next meeting? Perhaps Mr. Goulding will appear as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: The request at the meeting, as far as I can remember, was for the remuneration committee and for the board to appear. That was my understanding but I will ask the clerk to check that.

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