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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: It is not around the houses.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: No.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Various propositions have been made and there are a number of procedural matters I have to check as Chairman. I am not prepared to enter into a vote or take a proposition right now. As Chairman, I want to ask about the procedure today and come back to the committee and explain the procedure and do what is necessary after I have been informed. That is a reasonable course of action. I...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: We will find that out. I will ask that we set aside the debate for the moment to establish whom we must meet, and if the meeting can be arranged today. Before the end of this meeting, I will come back and inform the committee. Procedurally, we must be correct in every step we take.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Thank God for that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Deputy Murphy raised the matter of the DDDA. We will request that all of the outstanding information requested from the DDDA be sought, if there is any outstanding matter, and we will make it clear to Professor Brennan with regard to her evidence that we require that the date be set sooner than August. The committee is busy and I understand that she is busy, but if we must sit on a day...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I call Deputy Ross, who will be followed by Deputy Deasy, and then we will conclude.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: The Deputy cannot make that proposition for the moment.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Let me come back to it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: When we heard the witness, at the end of the meeting he was asked did he want the transcript and he said that he did. I think it was Deputy Eoghan Murphy who suggested that he should get legal advice. Following that, this letter came in. I take Deputy Eoghan Murphy's point that the solicitor was simply expressing the view, if one likes, of Sergeant McCabe that he would like to have the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: According to the clerk, he was informed last week that the transcript-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Yes

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Deputy Dowds is next.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: We are at this point because of the letter from Deputies Ross and McDonald.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: It is not so much a review as we are dealing with the letter.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Before the clerk replies, we reached a decision last week and are now referring to information from the CPP and the legal adviser. Those two items of information are not before us. In fairness to the clerk, he can give a verbal account of them. Before we consider this matter, perhaps what is required is to put the information to the committee. Does the clerk wish to reply?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Before I call Deputy Ross, there is another issue. The legal right of Sergeant McCabe to ask for the transcript needs to be explained to the committee, as does the issue involving the CPP.

Public Accounts Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: If they are directed by the committee to cease giving evidence on a particular matter and they continue to so do, they are entitled thereafter only to qualified privilege in respect of their evidence. They are directed that only evidence connected with the subject matter of these proceedings is to be given. They are asked to respect the parliamentary practice to the effect that, where...

Public Accounts Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I welcome all the witnesses and I invite the Comptroller and Auditor General to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Are the minutes of the private meeting of 30 January and the meeting of 6 February agreed? Agreed. A typo must be corrected in one of the minutes but it is only a minor error. Two matters arise from the minutes. The clerk has circulated a briefing note on the Rehab group on foot of receipt of information from SOLAS, the HSE and the Department of Justice and Equality. We will examine...

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