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Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
Chapter 13 - Official Development Assistance
(6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: It is a very good restaurant.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
Chapter 13 - Official Development Assistance
(6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: I have the information somewhere in my bag of tricks. The figure is quite significant.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
Chapter 13 - Official Development Assistance
(6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: I am conscious that the witnesses have been answering questions for two hours. Deputy Eoghan Murphy will be the last speaker. Do the witnesses want a break or are they happy to continue?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
Chapter 13 - Official Development Assistance
(6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: There is a certain amount of engagement between the Department and the official concerned, and a certain amount of analysis of the allowances to which Deputy Nolan referred. Are they just given without any investigation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
Chapter 13 - Official Development Assistance
(6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Is that the detail you want, Deputy Nolan?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
Chapter 13 - Official Development Assistance
(6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: To be helpful to Deputy Nolan, he has sought a reply and Mr. Cooney can provide that after considering the question. Do the 325 officials automatically get all the allowances outlined by Deputy Nolan or do they have to make a case under each heading to get the allowance? Do they make the application or does the Department apply the allowances across the board without question?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
Chapter 13 - Official Development Assistance
(6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: What does that mean?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
Chapter 13 - Official Development Assistance
(6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: I suggest Mr. Cooney gives us a note on each of those headings with a breakdown of the information Deputy Nolan requires.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
Chapter 13 - Official Development Assistance
(6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Can we start from the basis that Mr. Cooney will provide us, in the context of that parliamentary question, all the information that has been asked for in the breakdown of the figures?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
Chapter 13 - Official Development Assistance
(6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Mr. Cooney said it goes up and down. He might explain that to us.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
Chapter 13 - Official Development Assistance
(6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: May we publish your statement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs and Trade
Chapter 13 - Official Development Assistance
(6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: I thank Mr. McCarthy. I invite Mr. Cooney to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee (6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: At last week's meeting we referred to some of the institutes - Cork, Tallaght, etc. - about which we had received correspondence. I am of the view that we should examine the position in respect of those institutions in the context of the information we have received to establish whether we should discuss them, how they are funded, how the money is spent and how matters are dealt with at that...

Public Accounts Committee (6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: As stated on the previous occasion, we can sit on another day, if necessary, so that we might conclude our work within the required timeframe. When we have concluded our deliberations on the section 38 and section 39 organisations, we will be obliged to compile a report and lay it before the Dáil.

Public Accounts Committee (6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Mr. Daly is abroad on business. We are waiting for him to return so that we might set a date for that. We will make the visit as soon as possible. We informed him that Thursdays are the only days on which we are not available. On correspondence and in the context of a matter in which Deputy Eoghan Murphy is interested, we have requested the reports on Poolbeg for the information of...

Public Accounts Committee (6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: Perhaps the clerk will tell the Department we want them urgently.

Public Accounts Committee (6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: The Deputy expressed concerns about this matter previously. Other members are of the same view as him. Public money is involved and this is an issue of public concern. We have formally requested that the reports in question be furnished to us. I am of the view that those responsible should comply with our request immediately. Thereafter, the committee can decide what it intends to do in...

Public Accounts Committee (6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: We should remind the Department that we want to get our business done. In the context of our agenda for next week, we will be meeting officials from the Department of Justice and Equality to discuss the 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Vote 24 - Justice and Equality - and Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project. Is that agreed?

Public Accounts Committee (6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: It depends on the day. If we know we are going to go into private session, we inform them of that fact. We also inform them in advance if, for whatever reason, there is going to be a delay. We try not to keep witnesses waiting.

Public Accounts Committee (6 Mar 2014)

John McGuinness: They were told to be present from approximately 11 a.m. onwards.

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