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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: In the course of the Comptroller and Auditor General's audit?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Can we seek a note from the Accounting Officer responsible for the actual spending on political parties rather than a note on the policy issues? We can direct the policy issues to the appropriate Department.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Yes, a note on the actual spend, that is, on the figures. We will ask for that and then the committee can decide what it wishes to do after that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: We will now deal with documents related to today's meeting, namely correspondence dated 7 February from Mr. Adrian O'Donovan of the NTMA with briefing papers for matters to be considered. These papers are to be noted and published. We received further correspondence on 11 February from Mr. Adrian O'Donovan with an opening statement which is to be noted and published. Since our meeting on 6...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I suggest that the above accounts be noted but that we will seek a note from the OPW and the Department of Justice and Equality on the steps taken to deal with the excess accommodation at the Law Reform Commission, where there is ineffective expenditure. We will seek that note from them. On our work programme, are we finished with the matters relating to Waterford Regional Hospital?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Are there any comments on the work programme or any other business members wish to raise? Can we agree the agenda for our meeting on Thursday 20 February, which is to examine the 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts, Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners, with specific focus on chapter 3 - revenue collection, chapter 24 - management of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 2 - Government Debt
Chapter 28 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
Chapter 29 - Clinical Indemnity Scheme
2012 Annual Report and Accounts - National Pensions Reserve Fund
(13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: We will now deal with No. 7, the 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts: chapter 2 - Government debt, chapter 28 - accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency, chapter 29 - clinical indemnity scheme, and the 2012 annual report and accounts of the National Pensions Reserve Fund. I remind members, witnesses and those in the Visitors...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: We want to examine this and that is why I am asking that we get the details, so that we have the full report, to which the Deputy referred, and any other up-to-date details that might exist in regard to the spending of that money. On foot of that information, we can make that decision ourselves. We can ask the Accounting Officer, as it is taxpayers' money. I ask that this is made available...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: It has not indicated how many are compliant.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Can we seek that information before the HSE appears before the committee so that it is not new to us on the day and that we have a clear picture of what is going on in that regard?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: That is why I am asking for detailed information before this meeting because we need to examine it prior to the meeting. Also, in regard to section 38s, have we given notice to the board members of the CRC and to the remuneration committee of the wish of committee members that they would appear before us at some stage when this report is done? Does that require to be done?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Can we put them on notice?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: We will write again to Mr. Goulding. Can we send him transcripts of the meetings we have had so far requesting the information Deputy Harris outlined because we will require all of this for the next meeting? Perhaps Mr. Goulding will appear as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: The request at the meeting, as far as I can remember, was for the remuneration committee and for the board to appear. That was my understanding but I will ask the clerk to check that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: We are anxious to get these matters dealt with. Deputy Murphy raised the issue of the Jewish Museum with the OPW and since then, a list of questions have come in. I propose we send them on to the OPW for replies. I checked this with Deputy Murphy. We want to finalise our report on the penalty point issue. It might be worthwhile talking to the Road Safety Authority. That will finish...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: We had to make a legal submission for compellability in regard to that. I think Deputy Nolan proposed it. We have made that submission to the Committee on Procedure and Privileges and have asked it to treat it as a matter of urgency. Again, we are waiting on other parties in order for us to finalise our report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I have mentioned the bank stabilisation report. We will now move on to individual correspondence. We have received correspondence from Deputy Nolan regarding wards of court payments. This correspondence is to be noted and forwarded to the Courts Services for a note on the issues raised. Is that acceptable, Deputy Nolan?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Then it must be put to the CPP. It is as simple as that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I presume so.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: No one is denying anyone's rights, neither the rights of Sergeant McCabe nor the rights of committee members. I am just asking that it be clarified. That can be done immediately. We can ask whether it is the right of a member to have access to a transcript. Maybe we can have it before the end of the meeting or next week.

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