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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Car Testing: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: We investigated that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Car Testing: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: It was not discussed today but Applus+ investigated different levels of skill for different parts of the test. There was some kickback from the staff.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Car Testing: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Do they get hit with a payment or how does that work?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Car Testing: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: When they next present, are they not hit with all these backlogs?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Car Testing: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: That is why the witnesses would like everybody to prepay, one way or the other.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Car Testing: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: With regard to the cash facility, there may be ways people can pay cash but go by the post office or get a voucher or something rather than the NCT having to do it. Presumably there are a large amount of cash-handling costs in terms of getting the cash to the bank and all the rest of it. It is an overhead the NCT does not need.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Car Testing: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Presumably the witnesses are using a security company to come along and they might be paying them €180 to take away €50, potentially.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Car Testing: Discussion (20 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I get all that. It is very important that people who do not have credit facilities or credit or debit cards are included but there may be another way. When I was on Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown County Council, we had to have a cash office for paying rent and we said we would just move it to the post office. The post office got business out of doing it and we had a cash office that was not...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Decarbonisation Strategy for Aviation and Shipping Sectors: Minister of State at the Department of Transport (12 Jul 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The purpose of today's meeting is for the joint committee to discuss decarbonising the hard-to-abate sectors of both shipping and aviation, how to boost the uptake of sustainable fuels and maintain affordability and competitiveness at the same time. I am pleased to welcome the Minister of State at the Department of Transport, Deputy Chambers, and his officials. I will read a note on...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Decarbonisation Strategy for Aviation and Shipping Sectors: Minister of State at the Department of Transport (12 Jul 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank the Minister of State. We will now go to the members. Senator Doherty is taking the first slot on behalf of Deputy Joe Carey.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Decarbonisation Strategy for Aviation and Shipping Sectors: Minister of State at the Department of Transport (12 Jul 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Senator Doherty. Deputy Crowe may proceed as he is next to speak. I can give the Deputy some time if he wants and I can call Senator Dooley first.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Decarbonisation Strategy for Aviation and Shipping Sectors: Minister of State at the Department of Transport (12 Jul 2023)

Gerry Horkan: It is amazing how we can move from aviation to talking about a road in Clare.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Decarbonisation Strategy for Aviation and Shipping Sectors: Minister of State at the Department of Transport (12 Jul 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I understand that refers to aviation and shipping combined.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Decarbonisation Strategy for Aviation and Shipping Sectors: Minister of State at the Department of Transport (12 Jul 2023)

Gerry Horkan: NH3, I think it was.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Decarbonisation Strategy for Aviation and Shipping Sectors: Minister of State at the Department of Transport (12 Jul 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Deputy Crowe very much. It is my slot now and I have a few questions. This topic we are discussing today is on foot of an interparliamentary committee meeting in Brussels I attended on behalf of this committee and Parliament regarding the hard-to-abate sectors. It was very interesting to hear the different perspectives from countries that were also contributing. Representatives...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Decarbonisation Strategy for Aviation and Shipping Sectors: Minister of State at the Department of Transport (12 Jul 2023)

Gerry Horkan: To re-emphasise, all the things we do at an airport are aviation related. You may end up on an Aer Lingus aeroplane that, at 10 o'clock on a Sunday night, is turning right to the south gates and, all of a sudden, you are getting on a bus that brings you all over the place before you finally get to the gates for passport control.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Decarbonisation Strategy for Aviation and Shipping Sectors: Minister of State at the Department of Transport (12 Jul 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The Minister of State can find the figures afterwards if he does not have them. It is interesting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Decarbonisation Strategy for Aviation and Shipping Sectors: Minister of State at the Department of Transport (12 Jul 2023)

Gerry Horkan: They are very impressive figures, to be fair.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Decarbonisation Strategy for Aviation and Shipping Sectors: Minister of State at the Department of Transport (12 Jul 2023)

Gerry Horkan: When we visited either Cork or Dublin, they were talking about getting solar panels.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Decarbonisation Strategy for Aviation and Shipping Sectors: Minister of State at the Department of Transport (12 Jul 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Aviation is so central to our success in so many different ways. While many of our exports by volume go out via the marine, which is acknowledged, I am sure by value it is quite a different thing. Products such as microchips-----

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