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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: At the last meeting I raised an issue about a letter we got from the president of WIT in which he clarified his interest in a private company and noted he had been a director at some point. I asked that we write back to him to ask if he is a shareholder in the company. Was that done? If it was done, I assume we have not received a response yet.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: When did it come in?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: When did the reply come in?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Perfect.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Gabhaim mo bhuíochas leis an gCathaoirleach. I welcome Mr. Ó Foghlú and his team. I will start with the youth employment initiative and funding under the European Structural Funds operational programme. How much did the State receive in 2015 from this fund?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: If I said it was €68 million, with an additional €19.8 million, would I be accurate?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Before Mr. Ó Foghlú speaks at all about it, I was hoping he would have the figures and it is to be hoped he can get them. However, my understanding is €19.8 million had to be reimbursed to the European Commission. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: My understanding is €19.8 million was returned because of a failure on our part to meet requirements during that period. There was a return in 2016; therefore, the money could not be spent. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Does Mr. Ó Foghlú know if money had to be returned to the European Commission? Is he not be familiar with it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Leaving aside the numbers, will Mr. Ó Foghlú confirm that money had to be reimbursed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: I am sorry, but that is not accurate.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: I know that Mr. Ó Foghlú is trying to get the information, but I can put questions as he is trying to do so.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: It is not that money is lost but that it could not be spent in the time period in which it should have been spent. As Mr. Ó Foghlú stated, because of problems and delays in getting systems up and running, we had to reimburse the European Commission €19.8 million. This relates to financing for youth employment initiatives. The level of youth unemployment is still relatively...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: It would have been known that having the appropriate IT systems in place was one of the requirements to be met in drawing down the funding.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Was the Department aware that it was a requirement when it made the funding application? If it was, why were the processes and systems required not up and running?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: On the completion of this meeting today, will Mr. Ó Foghlú furnish the committee with a report or paper on what happened in terms of system failures or systems not being in place, indicating whether the matter is being rectified?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Ó Foghlú might furnish us with a paper on it. On the national training fund, is there a surplus?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

David Cullinane: How much is it?

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