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Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 23 - Revenue Collection
Chapter 24 - Management of Revenue Debt
Chapter 25 - Taxpayer Compliance
Chapter 26 - Corporation Tax Losses
Chapter 27 - Tax Audit Settlements
(20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Send us a copy of it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 23 - Revenue Collection
Chapter 24 - Management of Revenue Debt
Chapter 25 - Taxpayer Compliance
Chapter 26 - Corporation Tax Losses
Chapter 27 - Tax Audit Settlements
(20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: They do not have the money. The only evidence that they do is that the surrounding six properties in that rural pocket all have a lower valuation. These valuations have been accepted by Revenue. Why can it not check its records?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 23 - Revenue Collection
Chapter 24 - Management of Revenue Debt
Chapter 25 - Taxpayer Compliance
Chapter 26 - Corporation Tax Losses
Chapter 27 - Tax Audit Settlements
(20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I understand Revenue’s dilemma, as well as that of the older persons mentioned. I will get them to write to Revenue about the matter.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 23 - Revenue Collection
Chapter 24 - Management of Revenue Debt
Chapter 25 - Taxpayer Compliance
Chapter 26 - Corporation Tax Losses
Chapter 27 - Tax Audit Settlements
(20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Let us say an elderly couple genuinely ticked the wrong box, overvalued their property and paid at that rate. They have since checked with their neighbours and realised they all submitted a lower valuation. They are then asked to have a valuation put on their property to provide proof that it has a lower value. Asking an auctioneer to value their property involves another cost that they...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 23 - Revenue Collection
Chapter 24 - Management of Revenue Debt
Chapter 25 - Taxpayer Compliance
Chapter 26 - Corporation Tax Losses
Chapter 27 - Tax Audit Settlements
(20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Will Revenue accept evidence based on the valuations of six other houses in a rural location where there have been no sales for many years? If the only evidence is the lower valuations of six other nearby houses, would that be acceptable?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 23 - Revenue Collection
Chapter 24 - Management of Revenue Debt
Chapter 25 - Taxpayer Compliance
Chapter 26 - Corporation Tax Losses
Chapter 27 - Tax Audit Settlements
(20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: What if there is no evidence, bar the fact that the couple are elderly and have made a mistake?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 23 - Revenue Collection
Chapter 24 - Management of Revenue Debt
Chapter 25 - Taxpayer Compliance
Chapter 26 - Corporation Tax Losses
Chapter 27 - Tax Audit Settlements
(20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I have met people, predominantly in rural areas where no sales have happened, who have made a genuine mistake but the evidence required to correct that mistake is too costly for them to acquire, namely, a valuation from an auctioneer. They have received letters from Revenue telling them to obtain a valuation. To whom should such persons write?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 23 - Revenue Collection
Chapter 24 - Management of Revenue Debt
Chapter 25 - Taxpayer Compliance
Chapter 26 - Corporation Tax Losses
Chapter 27 - Tax Audit Settlements
(20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Mr. McCarthy wants to contribute.

Protected Disclosures Bill 2013 [Seanad]: Second Stage (Resumed) (20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I know the Chamber is empty, but others may be looking in, and I respect that.

Protected Disclosures Bill 2013 [Seanad]: Second Stage (Resumed) (20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I am sorry, but she appealed to the Taoiseach.

Protected Disclosures Bill 2013 [Seanad]: Second Stage (Resumed) (20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Do not give me that rubbish.

Protected Disclosures Bill 2013 [Seanad]: Second Stage (Resumed) (20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Do not give me that rubbish. She made a direct appeal to the Taoiseach and to the Minister, who should at least have acknowledged it. They should at least have asked her to come in and put her case to them to see if she had a case, and then let her proceed with it. As the Minister sponsoring this particular Bill, I am asking Deputy Howlin to convey to the Taoiseach and the Minister, Deputy...

Protected Disclosures Bill 2013 [Seanad]: Second Stage (Resumed) (20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I welcome the Bill and the Second Stage debate that is taking place on it. It is important legislation. In the penalties concerned, I point to the fact that one size does not fit all and perhaps, in the context of amendments, the Minister would look at that. We must tailor it to the size of the companies involved and to the extent of the complaint or corruption put forward by the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 23 - Revenue Collection
Chapter 24 - Management of Revenue Debt
Chapter 25 - Taxpayer Compliance
Chapter 26 - Corporation Tax Losses
Chapter 27 - Tax Audit Settlements
(20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I thank Mr. McCarthy. I ask Ms Feehily to make her opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 23 - Revenue Collection
Chapter 24 - Management of Revenue Debt
Chapter 25 - Taxpayer Compliance
Chapter 26 - Corporation Tax Losses
Chapter 27 - Tax Audit Settlements
(20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: May we publish Ms Feehily's statement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 23 - Revenue Collection
Chapter 24 - Management of Revenue Debt
Chapter 25 - Taxpayer Compliance
Chapter 26 - Corporation Tax Losses
Chapter 27 - Tax Audit Settlements
(20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: Before we begin, I remind members and witnesses and those in the Public Gallery to turn off their mobile telephones and to keep them away from the microphones on the desk because they interfere with the sound quality of the transmission of the meeting. I advise witnesses that they are protected by absolute privilege in respect of the evidence they are to give to this committee. If they are...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners
Chapter 23 - Revenue Collection
Chapter 24 - Management of Revenue Debt
Chapter 25 - Taxpayer Compliance
Chapter 26 - Corporation Tax Losses
Chapter 27 - Tax Audit Settlements
(20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I invite the Comptroller and Auditor General to make the opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I was going to suggest that we meet at the sub-committee next Wednesday. We should give a little time to the clerk so that he can put some information together. Does Wednesday week suit? We can start the process from there, agree on what needs to be done and move it forward.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: We should wait until the Comptroller and Auditor General has looked at it. That would be my immediate reaction. We suggested Wednesday week for our meeting. NAMA has made it clear to us on a number of occasions that we are welcome to go over to its office to hear a general briefing. We should take up its offer because the extent of the work is such that we had better cover every single...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Feb 2014)

John McGuinness: I shall ask the clerk to make the arrangements. No. 3A.7 is correspondence received on 20 February 2014 from the HSE regarding correspondence between Professor Noel Whelan and Mr. Tony O'Brien about public sector pay compliance. It is to be noted and published. The matter has been dealt with already. The HSE is going to receive, or has received, 88 business cases from 27 agencies. Is...

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