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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: What about social cohesion and housing?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Could I have some clarification on the first part? Did the Chairman say that the committee had received that information?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: The tribunals-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. Brian O'Malley undertook to provide that information. Has it been provided?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: What is the number of units?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: On that page, on the social-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: In page 2 of the Irish Council for Social Housing letter, it says the number of units under various levels is almost 30,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Where is the confusion about the number of units? Am I reading it wrong?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: The Irish Council for Social Housing letter, on page 2, in the diagram at the bottom-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Tier 1, 2, 3, and the-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: They are all under the Irish Council for Social Housing. That is all voluntary housing.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I do not know. Even before we get to that, do we take it from the figures that there are 30,000 units in question?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Before we make a final decision, I would point out that on page 2 again of the same letter, it kindly sends on information I asked about in respect of security of tenure. It was always my understanding that people had security of tenure for life, subject to complying with the tenancy agreement, and that there was no difference between being housed under a voluntary body and a local authority...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: That is what we need to know.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: They have it for life.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I do not even know what the figures are and I think we need clarification.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: It is not so much the remark as that it has not given us the information. It has told us how the RTB functions and what is in the legislation. We want a breakdown of the number of tenants who have tenure for life, subject to complying with their tenancy agreement.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: The RTB was only to give extra protection to a tenant, and it applied only to private tenants until these bodies came under its aegis as well. That did not change the leases; it was extra protection.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: It will apply to whatever houses they got in a particular way under NAMA or something, if they only got them for a short time. We do not know. We need to tease it out.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (28 Mar 2019)

Catherine Connolly: In addition, returning to what the Comptroller and Auditor General has said, we should ask how many other units exist that are not accounted for here.

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