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Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: It states that he received €11,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: That is, what is disclosed at that point.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: So prior to that is where the balance is.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: As for the approximately €1 million Rehab received from the United Kingdom, where is that in Rehab's accounts?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Was this a sum of €1.2 million?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: How does the group in the United Kingdom describe this amount?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: It is a gift.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: The group in the United Kingdom describe it as a gift, it enters Rehab's accounts but is not shown specifically in those accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Okay. In the context of the other entities under the top one, how much do they give in? What is the charge each year? Is it in excess of €1 million for each of these entities?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: No, the ones that are in Ireland and that appear under Rehab's-----

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: It is €4.2 million from each one of them.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: I know it is combined but from-----

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Yes, Rehab is in receipt of these and they would be in receipt from the Central Fund.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Consequently, one will find money from the Central Fund in each of the headings here.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: The National Learning Network and all of those receive taxpayers' money.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: They receive taxpayers' money.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: And then out of each of these entities, which receive taxpayers' money, a sum is paid in management fees to the Rehab Group-----

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: ----- totalling €4.2 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Therefore, would Mr. Poole agree there is a content of ----- or how would he describe that money? Is it not taxpayers' money?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Taxpayers' money goes into the entity that pays out all these salaries.

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