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Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: I am not sure who is actually asking questions here but I am just pointing out-----

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: I am pointing out that the Deputy wanted Mr. O'Brien to resign from his job in respect of the CervicalCheck debacle.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: There is not a thing going on. It is just that there has been lots of misinformation put out in recent days.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: I am sure the Deputy does, for different reasons. I do not recall Mr. O'Brien having a conversation with me. That is not to say that he did not. We had many conversations. The reality of the situation is that I take my medical advice from the chief medical officer, who is a doctor. I had lost confidence in the management of CervicalCheck. I do not wish to speak for Deputy Lisa Chambers...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: The HSE stopped it two months later. I conveyed my decision to the HSE and it said women had already booked in and asked to allow them to have those appointments.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: Sure.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: I do.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: Would Deputy Lisa Chambers give up Twitter if she was in Cabinet?

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: Exactly.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: The Deputy will understand why I take my advice in respect of whether it was a good or a bad decision from other sources than Opposition politicians. The president of the National Association of General Practitioners, someone the Deputy and her party cite quite regularly as having an expert view on primary care, stated again this week that he believed it was the right decision because many...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: The Deputy has suggested that I tweeted and created all this demand on capacity. Women were already going to their GPs. Women were turning up at their GP looking for reassurance, 110,000 of them. I made the decision not just about the repeat smear but also a free GP visit, which is different from the normal screening service protocol. I decided to offer a free consultation with the GP...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: I was not sending women anywhere. Women were going to their GPs.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: That is true.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: That is true.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: Deputy Chambers asked about the issue of capacity. What I meant by positivity was that the HSE officials, and I can single out Damien McCallion in particular, who were before this committee last week have worked night and day to try to identify additional capacity. They have assured me that it is not an issue of funding but of a shortage of cytology around the globe. For the first time...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: Certainly I will check that and I am happy to discuss the matter privately with Deputy Chambers. I will check it and come back to the Deputy in writing. I fully accept the bona fides of the reasons the Deputy is raising these issues. It is a particular challenge in the part of the country where Deputy Chambers comes from. I fully accept that for the reasons outlined by her. My clear...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: It is 33 weeks, absolutely. I am telling the Deputy today honestly that the HSE is actively involved in trying to find additional capacity to rectify that problem. I will come back to the Deputy and the committee as soon as I have further news on that.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: Yes.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: No, I will answer the question a different way. I have spoken about the error I think I made before. I am not sure it would have worked if I had tried this but, however long I am in politics and however long after politics, I will always regret that I did not request a bit of time. We were operating. I have to take the findings of the Scally report on board too. I respectfully suggest...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(10 Apr 2019)

Simon Harris: I will do that now.

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