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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: I will let them do that, but first I want to put a point to Dr. Foley in response to something he said, and then I will take whoever else wants to speak. I remind members that after Deputy Farrell's engagement we will come to the end of the first round. I have had a couple of indications from speakers who want to come in on the second round already. I remind members that there is other...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: It probably was not prior to defamation. Anyway, that is fine. It is very useful to have real-world examples. I appreciate people being candid with us about their experiences.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: I thank all of the witnesses. I will move on and hand the baton over to the next speaker. I will bring in Senator Martin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: The public participation definition is key.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: I thank the witnesses and Deputy Farrell for those questions. We are going to move to our second round of questions. There are three minutes per member. I will police it a lot more strictly than I did in the first round because the first round was very illustrative and very helpful and we got a good thrust going, but I am mindful of time and I know that the witnesses have been with us for...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: I thank Mr. Kealey. That is a good point to make.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: Politicians are sometimes the victims of SLAPPs.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: I am sure there are.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: We might come back to that in the third round. Deputy Pringle has not come in yet and, in fairness to other members-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: That is because you used the time-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: Members can choose how they manage their time. Senator Martin chose a certain path.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: Will Mr. O'Reilly set me straight? I did not fully catch that. Did he say there is one defamation case per day on average?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: Is that before the courts or being issued?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: Okay. Very good. That is interesting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: There are other organisations that have other cases going through.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: Who do NewsBrands represent?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: Which is who?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: Is Mr. Kealey DMG?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: What about the Irish Independent and the Sunday Independent? Are they part of either Mr. O'Reilly's or Mr. Kealey's groups?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Defamation (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (4 Jul 2023)

James Lawless: What about the Irish Examiner?

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