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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: There is no legal option open to us.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: Is Mr. Ó Foghlú telling me that of the €225.6 million committed to, he is confident that every cent will be paid?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: My point is we had a legal commitment of €128 million under the indemnity agreement. We then had voluntary offers, amounting to €353 million, and this figure was reduced to €225.6 million. Mr. Ó Foghlú is confident, notwithstanding valuations of properties, that he will get all of that sum. The activity of two of the congregations is somewhat problematic....

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: But they are not going beyond it in terms of the €120 million they initially offered-----

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: If they have not committed to transferring the lands, would they then not look at giving that sum of money in cash? Are we just going to decide that their withdrawal of the offer of lands worth €120 million is the end of it, or will we go back and ask what other contribution they can make?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: What about the Sisters of Mercy?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: I want to make one final point. When I mentioned the offer of €225.6 million by the congregations, a statement was made by Mr. Ó Foghlú that this value might not be realised because the land valuations might be lower. If that is the case, we need to get the cash from the congregations to make up the value of the offer. We simply should not accept properties that are worth...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: It says €127.5 million was offered and that €24.9 million was realised; there is, therefore, a shortfall of over €100 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: I will come back in later.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: As I am due to speak in the Dáil at some point, I wonder whether I could let some of my colleagues go first and then come in.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: I thank the Chairman.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: I will take over if Deputy MacSharry wants.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: I welcome the witnesses. What was Ms Higgins's role before she took up her position in Caranua?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: Regarding the first post, who did Ms Higgins work for?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: What about before that?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: Ms Higgins did a report in October 2010 for St. Stephen's Green Trust.

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: What is St. Stephen's Green Trust?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: Is it correct that Mr. O'Callaghan worked for more than 30 years in the public service, mainly in Revenue?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. O'Callaghan described the service that Caranua provided earlier as "an appalling service". Could he elaborate on that?

Public Accounts Committee: Caranua Financial Statements 2014 and 2015 (13 Apr 2017)

David Cullinane: Will Mr. O'Callaghan elaborate on "not treating people properly"?

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