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- Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: On the issue of Console, every single finding in the internal audit report that we examined carried a red flag and it was noted that there were systemic problems. There were issues the Chairman cited in terms of how long it had taken to arrive at the point where an internal audit was conducted. There was an example this week where the Cabinet signed off on an ex gratiapayment to a group of...
- Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: We have to accept that, but that is not to say the HSE cannot make some payment.
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: I want to make an observation first. Before I do, can Mr. Ó Foghlú elaborate on who exactly is with him here on behalf of his team? We have their names, but what are their roles within the Department?
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: I had that.
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: Okay. I take it all of the witnesses have read the Comptroller and Auditor General's report, or have they? Can I ask that question first?
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: Everybody has read it, okay. I have read the report, probably three or four times at this point. It is a troubling report for all sorts of reasons. It is difficult for us, even to put questions in relation to costs, because nobody is disputing, as Mr. Ó Foghlú stated earlier, that every cent that was given to survivors was entirely appropriate. The issue is who pays, and the...
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: With respect, that does not answer my question. What I am going to do is-----
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: -----follow the logic of the Comptroller and Auditor General's report.
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: This is not me saying this. I want to be clear on the facts. On page 11, in the summary, under Contributions from Religious Congregations, the last paragraph states:Government policy is that the congregations who ran the institutions would share equal liability of the €1.52 billion cost of redress i.e. contribute €760 million. The point of that, I would imagine, is that the...
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: The policy was not-----
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: Mr. Ó Foghlú should be very clear. Will he say that again, in terms of the original policy?
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: At what point was it Government policy that there should be equal liability? When did that become Government policy, and how?
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: I am not asking about engagements. This is a straightforward question. The language used in the Comptroller and Auditor General's report is straightforward where it states, "Government policy is that the congregations who ran the institutions would share equal liability ...", and it determines 50% of the overall cost of redress, which results in a figure of €760 million. My question...
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: Post-Ryan?
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: Pre-Ryan then, it was not Government policy to ensure that there was equal liability.
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: I understand all that. It has been recognised by the witnesses that it is Government policy that it should have been an equal liability. Has that been achieved?
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: What percentage of the liability has been met by the religious congregations so far? I refer to what has been paid, not what has been offered. How much has been handed over? Is €194 million an accurate figure comprising voluntary contributions and the indemnity agreement?
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: What does that equate to in percentage terms in the context of the overall cost?
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: Is that not well below 50%?
- Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 96 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Child Abuse Inquiry and Redress (13 Apr 2017)
David Cullinane: When the initial indemnity agreement was put in place, was there a relationship between the payments the congregations made to the indemnity given? They were to pay €128 million. Was there a relationship between that amount being paid and the congregations being indemnified?