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An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: I deal with people just as the Deputy does. I deal with people who want access to these records.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: The Deputy should stop taking the high moral ground and saying that others on this side of the House, because we are in government trying to do the right thing, are somehow trying to undermine people's access.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: On the lockdown, the measures are very clear in terms of what is essential and non-essential work. That will apply. The Garda, as in the case of the previous lockdown and under the level 3 restrictions, has operational discretion but the situation is clear. We have allowed construction and manufacturing work to continue and there is a list of exemptions. I am not, on foot of every...

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: I am very well aware of the situation and I thank the Deputy for raising it. The Minister is very possessed with the issue. Discussions took place recently between the Departments of Employment Affairs and Social Protection and Public Expenditure and Reform, which has a key role in this matter as well given concerns previously that there may be knock-on implications arising out a mechanism...

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: I spoke on this matter in the House last week. The issues with the Bill are very clear. It is for the preservation, in the first instance, of the records and the necessity to do that before the end of this month. The bona fides of the Minister in this should not be questioned. He wants to do the right thing by those most affected as well and-----

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: -----this will be followed by further legislation. He is willing to engage with Members of the Opposition on the issues.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: If the Deputy is agreeable to a Business Committee meeting-----

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: No, I cannot. I do not want to do that. I am not going to dictate to the Business Committee.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: It may very well result in a Friday sitting but given that it has been agreed that the Business Committee will meet, the fairest thing is to allow it to deliberate upon it. The Government will be represented by the Whip at the Business Committee. That is a reasonable way to proceed.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: It is their decision to vote.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: To be fair to Deputy McGrath, he ran that committee for a long time.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: I jest, I jest, I jest.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: I jest; I apologise.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: No offence, a Cheann Comhairle. I did not mean it.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: The Deputy has been very active on the Business Committee for a long time.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: I said the Business Committee is due to meet. I am being respectful to the committee and I will not dictate to it. I will not pre-empt what it may do.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: That is a reasonable position. If the Deputy does not accept that, that is his prerogative.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: It will take a while to surpass the Deputy in that department.

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: My understanding is that the Business Committee is due to meet today, or that it can do so. We have no difficulty in engaging with the Business Committee, as the Chief Whip has made clear, to work out the arrangements that might be optimal for the House to debate all of these issues. I hope Deputy Gannon did not mind that I interrupted him. The reason I did is because the Minister for...

Ceisteanna ó Cheannairí - Leaders' Questions (20 Oct 2020)

Micheál Martin: Quarantine is not going to happen to the degree people suggest. It is just not. Our geographic location and connectivity makes zero Covid, in my view, not capable of implementation. I believe NPHET share that view. The Chief Medical Officer and deputy CMO have heard this and the people who put this forward are serious people. I am not ridiculing or undermining people but I genuinely do...

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