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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Today has been a long one for or us all as we have spent almost five hours in discussions and it seems a long time since I asked my questions. At the time I talked about the internal audit report being comprised of a litany of failures and used the term sloppy practice. Mr. Kelly used the terms irregular practice and maladministration, which I think we can accept. Earlier I asked...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Why did it take such a long time?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Does Mr. Kelly believe the information was purposely withheld?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: In Mr. Kelly's experience of audit-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: -----and the world of auditing-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: -----the reason an organisation or an individual in an organisation identify potential wrongdoings, sloppy practices and so on and pass information to auditors, the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General and the Department is because the organisation or individual wants a spotlight to be shone on the issue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: A reason they would not do it generally is they do not want a spotlight shone on the issue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: That was the problem. This is a question for the Comptroller and Auditor General as well. I acknowledge this is a difficult question for him to answer but, in his professional opinion, at what point should the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General have been informed of the issues we are aware of and which we have spent almost five hours discussing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: However, that did not happen in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: That raises questions. Mr. Kelly sought reports, which he did not receive. I have been fair to him regarding the work he and his office did, but there are also questions to be answered and issues to which we must return regarding the follow-up when they did not receive information. Earlier, he said that when he sought the 2008 report and did not get it and a few years went by, he brought...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: How was that communicated?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Is it acceptable that there is no paper trail and that he did not put this in writing, given the seriousness of this?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Why did Mr. Kelly not put it in writing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Can Mr. Kelly find out?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Page 14 of the report refers to the Garda Commissioner and 2 March 2011 and contains a paragraph which says "no assurances were given". That paragraph was removed and deleted and Mr. Kelly said this was because he was given assurances.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Did Mr. Culhane give the assurances to Mr. Kelly?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: However, the assurances were given by Mr. Culhane. The CAO was the conduit but the assurances were given by Mr. Culhane.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: However, Mr. Kelly saw this as assurances because he said he deleted the paragraph because of assurances that were given.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Who gave Mr. Kelly the assurances he talked about?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Everyone is passing the buck.