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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: It is not just copies of reports but also any correspondence between the Commissioner and all of the different individuals who are cited where there was an exchange of papers and reports and minutes of meetings that took place. Mr. Ó Cualáin said there was an extensive discussion at the committee meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: We need all of those minutes, correspondence and copies of the reports.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: The final issue I want to raise relates to breaches in law. I am sure the Commissioner will accept that legislation is put in place for people to follow, implement and abide by and that any breach of legislation is essentially a breach in law. Is that the case? If one does not follow legislation it is potentially a breach in law.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Potentially, yes. On page 4 of the report it is stated that "the issues identified in this report are serious and present considerable risk to the organisation and should be dealt with in an open and transparent manner." On page 6 it is stated that Garda HRM would have to remind staff who are directors of Garda College Sports Field Company limited of their legal obligations to provide...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: That is what the report states. Would that represent a breach in law?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: On page 17 it is stated An Garda Síochána did not have the authority to enter into an arrangement in terms of the Dromad farm because that was in contravention of section 29(3) of the Garda Síochána Act. That provision prohibits An Garda Síochána from entering into contracts relating to land. It states that money raised was to be transferred to the Office of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: The point I was making was that the internal audit cites breaches in legislation time and again. I was not looking for excuses around whether people own farms. What I am saying is that this is the report I am working from. Over and over, the report I have cited documents, potentially, several breaches of different Acts by members of An Garda Síochána. Who examines that? Who...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: I think I am reading this correctly. Perhaps the Comptroller and Auditor General can confirm the point. With respect, the report states that €126,000 needs to be transferred from the An Garda Síochána Vote to the OPW because the money was collected. We now know that much of that money was spent on things like donations and gifts to members of An Garda Síochána....

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: I am also troubled by the Commissioner's comments. There have been several references to the information in the report not having been properly tested, which could suggest the Commissioner does not accept the internal audit report.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Why was the Garda Commissioner in communication with Mr. Kelly and Mr. Nugent in preparing for this meeting? That indicates that witnesses were having discussions about what they might say before they came into a meeting of the Committee of Public Accounts. Why would the Commissioner be in discussion with Mr. Kelly and Mr. Nugent?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Which report was this?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Was that paragraph not deleted?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: At page 14 of the report it says that of the six points agreed in correspondence between the Commissioner and the CAO, none was implemented. That is on page 14 of the report.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Can Mr. Culhane turn to page 14 of the report where he will see that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: It says that of the six points agreed in correspondence between the Commissioner and the chief administration officer, CAO, none was implemented.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Yes, but in terms of the note that was given to the Commissioner, he accepted the recommendations. The logic was that they would be implemented but none of them was. Mr. Culhane referenced the note between the Commissioner and the CAO. He brought that up. It made, as we know, six recommendations and six points were raised. The internal audit report shows, and it may be that Mr. Kelly can...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Can I be helpful to the Vice Chairman? Page 4 of the report states that college management responded in March 2010 rejecting many of the recommendations of the finance directorate's report. It goes on to say that some of the issues were addressed by the college management but the structural issues in college governance were not addressed and, over the years, some of the improvements in...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: On the rejection of those recommendations, what course of action did Mr. Culhane take?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Everyone who has been asked has said "We passed it on to somebody else" and somebody else is not in the room. We do not know what the person who is not in the room did with it. That is the pattern that seems to be evident from all of the responses.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Those of us who want to come back in should be able to do so. There are people who want to come back in.