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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: A player could register under a second name.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: There is protection against it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: That does not protect the client; rather, it protects the payout master.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: The paymaster does not have to pay out.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: A person could have lost €75 every day for days and then cannot accept a payout because he or she got around the system by registering twice, three times or whatever.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: Has it occurred?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: Have there been payouts that were not made?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: Were there wins that were not paid out?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: As we heard from Ms Buckley, many accounts are set up outside the country and are not based in Ireland, but rather in Gibraltar or elsewhere. Players are based outside of the jurisdiction and the lotto does not have to pay out.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: Where does the money that is supposed to be paid out but is not go? Who receives it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: The guidelines must not be clear if a client was told a prize could not be claimed because an address outside of the State was given. Would that be true?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: As we heard from Ms Buckley, the national lottery is planning a major expansion, in terms of extending the lotto to points of sale at restaurants, cafes, barber shops or wherever there is a point of sale. How will this operate? Obviously, the commission will be lower and, therefore, more beneficial to the national lottery.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: Will it be the same suite of products?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: So the regulator has approved the rolling out of this to other outlets.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: The products cannot be sold in cafes, bars or restaurants where there is alcohol.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: Does the regulator believe the Houses of the Oireachtas should bring forward legislation to help put in place more barriers or help control the gambling addiction in the country at present?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: Comparing regulation of the UK and Irish lotteries, we see no details on the amount raised for good causes in Ireland but the UK regulator has such details. There is no information on ticket allocations or the integrity of the games in Ireland but there is in the UK. The same operator runs the two lotteries. There is no verification of the system by the Irish regulator but there is by the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: We have heard from Ms Buckley there does not seem to be information on why the outages occurred in 2015 and 2016 and what regulations have been put in place to ensure they do not happen again.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: Mr. Sloyan is stating we heard from the operator, but we did not hear from the regulator with regard to the outage in 2015.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Overview of Operations of the National Lottery: Discussion (7 Mar 2017)

Paddy Burke: There has been reduction in the money contributed to good causes over a number of years, which has decreased from €205 million in 2013 to €188 million in 2015. There was a peak of €267 million in 2008. The price of the ticket has increased and there seem to be more games but we have seen a reduction in the contribution to good causes.

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