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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: Dr. Roantree might answer that point if the Deputy's mathematics are correct. It will probably have a bearing on where the Deputy is going.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: I will seek a comment on that point and will allow the Deputy to come in again. This is significant for us all in respect of the operation of the scheme.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: Is Deputy Ó Cuív right in his mathematics as they apply to the payments into the scheme? I accept that there is a different tax treatment on the way out. The argument the Deputy is making is that one will have a fund to invest at €100 compared with a fund at €75.

Written Answers — Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment: Healthcare Policy (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: 55. To ask the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment if he has received a request from the Minister for Social Protection to designate long Covid as an occupational illness; the current status of the request; the timeline for responding; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [6066/23]

Written Answers — Department of Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht: Broadcasting Sector (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: 137. To ask the Minister for Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht if she will confirm whether she expects to receive the report from the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland on support for the independent radio sector within 100 days of the Report Stage of the Online Safety and Media Regulation Bill 2022, as outlined in Dáil Éireann on 30 November 2022; and if she will make a statement...

Written Answers — Department of Education and Skills: Educational Disadvantage (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: 248. To ask the Minister for Education and Skills if DEIS schools are mandated to provide reading recovery and the associated whole class programme literacy lift-off as a condition of accessing extra funds for DEIS and the DEIS scheme in general; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [6065/23]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Healthcare Policy (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: 454. To ask the Minister for Health if he has received a request from the Minister for Social Protection to designate long Covid as an occupational illness; the current status of the request; the timeline for responding; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [6067/23]

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: One of the issues that continually comes up, especially in respect of women, is the ability to top up their pensions. Under the occupational pensions, there is a certain amount of flexibility in that regard. Under the auto-enrolment system, there is not. Part of the problem is this taxation barrier, because they are two very different systems. If we were to address the issue of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: Dr. Roantree addressed this earlier.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: In fairness, Dr. Roantree has gone through this twice. We are under time pressure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: I have a question for Dr. Keane on that specific matter and her study of the modelling of the lowest 40%. She said the auto-enrolment does not really have an impact on them because they are under the €20,000 income threshold. They are under the €20,000 income threshold. Most of the income for a lot of the people within that cohort is not employment income. We have heard...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: Will Dr. Keane provide the committee with that modelling on the €14,000?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: Can we have the plain English version not the economics version?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: Dr. Roantree, an easy question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: Is it not potentially an attraction for auto-enrolment that if there was the same level of tax relief in auto-enrolment as there is in an occupational pension? Then with auto-enrolment, which allows a person to more from employer to employer, they are not tied to any employer or to any pension fund and they get the same level of tax relief. It actually might bring more people who are...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: No, and we accept that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: In fairness, the committee reflected in its report that it was just one element of what could be done, but it is a significant element that should not be ignored and that was the point the committee made.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: We are dealing with auto-enrolment here and not public sector pensions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: General Scheme of the Automatic Enrolment Retirement Savings System Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (8 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: The Senator might want to take the issue up with the finance committee. I suggest the ESRI team here take it back to their colleagues for consideration and they might engage with the finance committee on that. Auto-enrolment really only relates to the private sector, and even the self-employed are not part of this. That concludes our consideration of the evidence. I thank Dr. Roantree...

Ceisteanna Eile - Other Questions: Defence Forces (2 Feb 2023)

Denis Naughten: As the Tánaiste knows, the report talked about the geographic location of this, and slap bang in the middle of the country could not be a better location from that point of view. Custume Barracks is also the only headquarters that is not currently a headquarters today. It has all the infrastructure in place. I also put it to the Tánaiste that when brigade status was removed from...

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