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Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: The 1.3 million is based the principal primary residence. If there were eight people in eight different apartments in the one block who had all signed up as customers of Irish Water, they would get the €100. If somebody has their own house, they will get it for that, but if they have another holiday home in Kerry, they will not get it for that. So it is not for holiday homes.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: It is not for businesses that have got the packs sent out or anything like that. It is for people who either have their own home - it is not for their holiday homes - or it is for people who are renting and are signed up to Irish Water as a customer.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: The estimate based on that is 1.3 million, which at €100 comes to €130 million.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: No, I am not saying there are 2 million. I am saying there are 1.3 million as outlined there. I cannot be any clearer than that.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: It is not wrong

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: It is not wrong.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: It is the best estimate based on the analysis done by the Government.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: The Deputy is not taking into account a whole range of factors regarding holiday homes, other types of buildings, vacant houses and all of that.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: This is very clear. The 1.3 million is very clear.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: At 1.3 million-----

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: Irish Water has been set up to deliver better water services and new investment. I have outlined the figures already. This needs a new funding model and as I have outlined the revenue will drive this investment. The cost of collecting this revenue is less than the revenue collected.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: The cost of collecting this revenue is less than the revenue collected. The figures the Deputy has outlined-----

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: I have told the Deputy on numerous occasions I will get him those data. I have outlined all the costs.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: I have outlined all the costs regarding this on numerous occasions, making up to €899 million that will be spent. I have also outlined the €130 million in the conservation grant on numerous occasions. The CER looked at the costs. Customer operation costs are on its site. As I have said previously, I will get the Deputy those data. The water conservation grant is a...

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: The only-----

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: No, they have a principal private residence where they are renting.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: That is not true.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: No.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: There are 1.3 million principal primary residences. People living in their homes will get this grant should they sign up. If they own other properties they will not get it for other properties.

Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (11 Dec 2014)

Alan Kelly: A tenant who is renting what is his or her primary residence will get the grant too. However, a person who has multiple properties will only get the grant based on the primary residence. Tenants will get the grant. The figure is 1.3 million.

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