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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: That is good. There is a list of questions on which the representatives might come back to us. One thing I want to get off my chest relates to an RTÉ presenter who is actually represented by Noel Kelly. Last night, he stated that to take the minds of the public off “that nonsensical Oireachtas Nuremberg trial" he would play some Rory Gallagher. I love Rory Gallagher. He is...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: Yes, as long as you are quick, because I am conscious of time.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: He tweeted it.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: Okay. I wanted to raise it because I thought it was very insulting. If any of us as politicians were to say something similar, we know what would happen. I want to go back to the evidence that was given. This question is for Mr. Bakhurst. The evidence has been contradictory. I cannot see how some of the people who have been involved and who have been appearing before the two...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: No, I am asking you.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: You do not accept that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: Okay, that is the first thing. I thank Mr. Bakhurst for being so direct. I appreciate it. Second, Mr. Tubridy said he took a 20% pay cut. Does Mr. Bakhurst accept that that is accurate? I do not.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: Let us talk about real money and real taxpayers. Who is paying what? In totality, does Mr. Bakhurst think it is true that he took the 20% pay cut?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: Let me put it to Mr. Bakhurst this way: does he think it is accurate that a 20% pay cut was taken by that presenter?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: I am not saying that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: Okay. I want to turn to the whole payment process, which is the bit that the general public finds a complete laugh. There was this whole situation where there was an accountancy process whereby RTÉ colluded. In fairness to the chairperson, she used the term “colluded to deceive" in relation to the payment through Astus etc. Does Mr. Bakhurst think it is appropriate for...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: I am talking about the second payment of €75,000, which went through a British company nobody had ever heard of.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: On either side?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: Perfect.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: In fairness, I lost-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: I lost a minute. Come on. One last question.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: I first raised the topic of Ryan Tubridy’s current contractual status. Obviously we all know that it has gone into abeyance, based on the evidence that I think was given to Deputy Burke or Devlin, although I cannot remember because I am mithered at this stage. There are people watching out there who have small businesses, large businesses or anything. Basically now RTÉ has to...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: How are you going to solve it?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: This is only a temporary deal.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Alan Kelly: Or not doing.

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