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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: To store its trucks.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Supplies and all of that stuff.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: It got planning permission for its own business without the benefit of that depot.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Of course it has. Is the zoning consistent with a depot?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Did the Courts Service apply for a change of use for the year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: It is an interesting issue. Were I a private developer who wanted to duck out of the vacant site levy, I would not get away with licensing it out.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Can you get us a note on it, albeit that it will be from the OPW? The Courts Service is associated with the ownership of it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: It is for the purposes of the Courts Service. A three-card trick has been used to get out of the €700,000 vacant site levy and the Courts Service is the beneficiary. I do not think that looks good and a standard developer would not be able to do that. A €700,000 vacant site levy would bank €140 million in borrowings. If it is not GDPR, commercial sensitivity is used...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I ask for a note on zoning. Is it permitted that the site be licensed out or have we done a three-card trick to duck out of the €700,000? Who made the mistake of mixing up the €40 million and the €140 million?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I do not expect Ms Denning to confirm it was a mistake but I can get away with saying it. A change from €40 million to €140 million does not go so well.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: The Courts Service is present.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Ms Denning said the four sites were reflected in the appropriation account.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Is it not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Okay. I ask Ms Denning to request this information from the OPW and they can come back to us with answers.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Under compensation and legal costs, there were 30 claims by members of the public in 2018.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Absolutely. Would these typically be people falling and so on?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Who sits on the board of the Courts Service? Are there any lay people or people from a variety of backgrounds?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Who sits on the audit and risk committee?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: There are independent people on that committee. Has the Courts Service had any protected disclosures since the Act came in in 2014?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 22: Courts Service
(14 Nov 2019)

Marc MacSharry: They were not protected disclosures, then.

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