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Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Yes, and people's lives are more important than any amount of money. We got a response from the OPLA and we can circulate the document to members. We can again engage with the family on the reports the Senator is asking about and we will find out whether this committee can get independent assistance in going through that.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Yes, it is nonsense. I fully agree the Gaffney family did everything to protect their staff and that has cost them an awful amount. People in power are just not willing to take responsibility for three boats we know are out there with the same issues.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: There are hundreds more cases.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: To go back to something Deputy Buckley said, I cannot recall reading any reports about the European Ombudsman being involved in this-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: -----so that may be an avenue. Are we saying we should leave the recommendation in respect of the Departments until we get the reports from both sides and engage an expert? As Deputy O'Donoghue suggested, should we have the documentation from both sides before any representatives of the Departments come before the committee? Is that agreed?

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: We can ask whether it has ever come before the ombudsman.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: I do not know who said it earlier but it is a priority that we try to get something done and resolve this as quickly as possible because of the other three boats we know are on the seas.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Is that agreed? Agreed.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Yes.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: P00022/2023, concerning a referral to the Supreme Court of the incitement to hatred Bill 2022 to protect free speech, is from Mr. Stephen J. Delaney. It states: We The People of the Republic of Ireland, demand that in the event the elected President of Ireland, Michael D. Higgins, be asked by the houses of the Oireachtas to sign into law the Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Does Deputy O'Donoghue wish to add anything further or is he finished?

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Okay. The recommendation is that the correspondence from the petitioner be sent to the Department. We will continue with that. However, the committee is in agreement that we write to the petitioner and advise of what Senator Craughwell and Deputy O'Donoghue said, that the way to go with this, in our opinion, is through the Seanad where lobbying can be done and amendments submitted. It can...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Okay, we will go that way. We will inform the petitioner as to what we have spoken about.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Yes, a formula of words to use with the petitioner. Is that agreed then? Agreed.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: P00036/23 concerns the Invincibles reinterment campaign. The petitioner is Mr. Aidan Lambert. This petition relates to the National Graves Association. It requests that the Government oblige the Office of Public Works, OPW, to carry out the necessary excavation works to recover the remains of Joseph Brady, Daniel Curley, Michael Fagan, Thomas Caffrey and Timothy Kelly, in what is commonly...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Yes, we should make decisions.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: To make people aware, 28 councils have passed motions giving their backing to the campaign but the campaign also has the support of 73 TDs, 14 Senators, 30 MLAs, eight MPs and 92 relatives. It has a big lobby behind it and it probably-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Yes, but I think we need first to focus on the three State bodies. As we have said, one of them has to take responsibility instead of sending the tennis ball over and back or around in circles.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Well, we would imagine so. We will invite in representatives of the three State bodies and try to find out as a committee which of them is going to take responsibility. As the Senator said, when 92 relatives are in favour of it, that is a strong indication it should be done. I fully agree that afterwards, once we get responsibility from one of the State bodies, decisions can then be made...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: We will go with the recommendations. We will invite in representatives of the State bodies and try to get one of the three to take responsibility for this matter. It has been going on too long. The campaign has the backing of 28 councils, TDs, Senators and so on but, as Senator Craughwell said, it also has the support of 92 of the men's relatives, and that should be the main thing....

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