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Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: When the Minister says "envisaged", as part of the Minister's agreement with the banks, were targets set as to the percentage of the overall loans that would be for certain terms? If the Minister had agreed with the banks that he would give them €25 million for this product but left it to them to decide the number of years for that €25 million, then it would be a very loose deal.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: I accept that but I will make a final point. It is not clear from the responses the Minister gave to the questions I asked that value for money was got regarding that €25 million. He is not giving us the information that would give us clarity on whether that value for money was got.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: I understand that. The farmer is benefitting but-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: -----has the Minister already agreed that the banks will get all of that €25 million or could there be an underspend in that regard? To summarise, it is clear from what the Minister is saying to me, although he is not able to give me the details, that he has agreed with the banks and the SBCI that they would get €25 million. That figure is clear. It is also clear that the...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: The Minister knows what he agreed with the banks.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: My point is that the Minister could be clear on what he was getting for the €25 million he was paying the banks, but he cannot do that.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: For how much? The Minister cannot tell me that.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: The Minister is giving them €25 million but he does not know how much cheap credit he is purchasing in total.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: The Minister was not able to tell us that. That is what I was asking the Minister but I presume that was the type of agreement that was done.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: Is the beef data and genomics programme dealt with here?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: The beef data and genomics programme, BDGP, relates to animal welfare under programme A, which is why I asked if it would be dealt with there. Currently, 24,500 farmers are signed up under the programme. The Minister indicated that €52 million is available for the programme in 2017. We have had a debate, and will probably debate it again, on the need for additional supports for the...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: I will not get stuck into the issue of the underspend in terms of the Government's commitment. I have been very clear about the Minister following through on the Government's commitment to fund the rural development programme to the extent committed to across the various schemes when the rural development programme and the schemes were announced by the Minister's predecessor. However, that...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: What was the commitment, as far as the Minister understands?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: Yes, but-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: My understanding is that when the beef data and genomics programme was announced and launched by the Government, a specific budget was allocated to it and, if I recall correctly, €250 million was to go towards the BDGP to facilitate 35,000 farmers being part of it. That was the Government's commitment. Perhaps I am wrong about that, and if I am wrong-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: How wide?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: No-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: I am just putting it to the Minister what the Government committed to, that is, 35,000 farmers.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: The Minister cannot clarify the actual figure committed to.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2017
Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(21 Mar 2017)

Charlie McConalogue: Can the Minister’s officials clarify the figure committed to under the BDGP? Specifically, within the €52 million for this year, can the Minister give us a breakdown-----

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