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Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: Could Ms Dunnion explain that for the public?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: Does HIQA have more powers in respect of nursing homes -----

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: ----- than in hospitals?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: I do not think that the public understands that subtle difference.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: Deputy Alan Kelly has ten minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: I agree with the Deputy. I looked at the witnesses' opening statement and in terms of anybody reading it, it states that it is here to improve the health services for the public but now we find it has no role in regulating any of the hospitals.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: The opening statement did not give any perception as to its limited role. I am only pointing it out, and I know it is the witnesses' first time to be here.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: Deputy Kelly's time is up. The next speaker is Deputy Catherine Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: Sorry, Deputy

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: I call Deputy Catherine Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: What is the Tusla investigation?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: He was before us with NAMA.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: I just want to pose a few random questions. Approximately how many closures of nursing homes would HIQA have brought about in recent years? There would be a few.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is what I mean. They were not compliant and they had to close.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: Fine. We understand that. Perhaps they had business or other reasons.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: Deputy Alyward mentioned a particular case whereby the ownership seems to have changed and I remember on instance a couple of years ago one - in Mullingar or somewhere in Westmeath - where people were being moved elsewhere because of standards. How often does that happen? It is obviously rare.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: When something like that happens, it attracts a great deal of media attention.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: Does everybody who works in all the organisations that HIQA regulates require Garda clearance?

Public Accounts Committee: Health Information and Quality Authority: Financial Statement 2016 (28 Sep 2017)

Seán Fleming: I know well it is not. In its inspections, would HIQA check registers or the files?

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