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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I will just point out that the statement of internal control does not detail any of this.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: And there are no contemporaneous written accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: The decision to revert back to the Dublin headquarters only happened when the Minister made the section 18 appointees.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Could I ask Ms Campion about the financial implications of the move? How much did it cost the taxpayer?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: The figure I have in front of me is up to €5,400. Is that accurate? A total of €1,000 of it has been repaid.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Okay. I want to move on to the issue of protection teams in general but the protection team in Ballyshannon, County Donegal in particular. A difficulty was identified with the activity of that protection team. It might be a question for Mr. O'Donnell, but Mr. Fox might wish to respond also.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Was there an investigation into one particular team?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Was there not an internal process whereby this was checked?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Have I made an error there? Was there a performance investigation into a team in a different area?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Okay. I want to turn to fleet management in particular. I think it is the second biggest expenditure outside of salaries. I understand the need for maintenance of the fleet. The valuation for plant and equipment comes to €21.4 million, which is substantial. To a certain extent I can understand it. I just want to get the right page in front of me here. There is a question around...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Are there slightly over 200 vehicles?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: We are pretty close to a one-on-one ratio in terms of vehicles to staff.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I accept that. Given the type of work IFI does, I accept the fact that there is a need for specialist vehicles but it just seems a very high ratio. It also seems that there is a very high figure included for general car hire; €350,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: In broad strokes, there is the guts of €500,000 being spent on fuel and €350,000 spent on car hire. The size of the fleet means that depreciation is a very serious cost. I understand there is a need for that but I find it astonishing, considering the size of the fleet, a fleet manager was only put in place after somebody had a crash in an uninsured vehicle.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Is the timeline wrong?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: It is evident in the fact there were 16 uninsured vehicles driving around the place that there was a need for a fleet manager.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I have a follow-on question on the climate commitments IFI set out. I think it is high level objective 4 and it refers to the type of reductions needed in carbon emissions across the organisation. The guts of €500,000 is being spent on fuel to get that expensive fleet around the place and that is not counting fuel for the RIBs, which is a separate cost. A significant amount of money...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I want to stay on the issue of Aasleagh Lodge for a moment or two. What was it valued at when it was put up for sale? What was the valuation?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: It was always going to be one of the key issues discussed today. I would have expected those numbers. Was the valuation internal or was it an independent valuation?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: We all probably would have expected information both on the valuations and on any offers that were made.

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