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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Can we not get technology that just slows people down?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Probably not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: It can be a win-win. If you agree to take a box in your car, your insurance company may be much more willing to insure you as it is tracking you and can see when and what kind of driving you do. I drive about 6,000 km a year. I am not-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Then the insurance company realises I am not driving very much so it decides maybe I am not as experienced and I am saying, "Hold on now, I have been doing it a long time." There is almost a disincentive to drive less.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I used to be involved with the AXA road safety stuff and it used to go out to the Royal Marine Hotel in DĂșn Laoghaire. They had mothers there who had lost children and people who had got a car on their first day. I saw transition year students, not just girls, but mostly girls, but also guys coming out in tears afterwards. It was shocking. Then the students went outside and saw the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: People have great cars and those might be able to do 200 km/h. There may not be a huge difference between doing 120 km/h or 130 km/h as a speed on a motorway but I would like to see buy-in of the 50 km/h limit in urban areas before we bring it down to the 30 km/h. I know the turning circles on the M50 when you come off the motorway are supposed to be 30 km/h. I have never seen anyone do 30...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: It is the Red Cow and all these junctions where you loop onto or off the M50 where all these speed limits are very low. There are so many opportunities for technology to keep an eye on all of us in such a way that we do not take as many risks as some people are taking.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: That is what I was trying to suggest, that a driver would be automatically-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: That was my whole point. I want to get to the stage that you get into your car, you drive, and if the speed limit is 50 km/h, your car cannot go past 50 km/h. If you turn off a particular road into a housing estate, the speed limit is down to 30 km/h. If you go onto a dual carriageway, it is up to 60 km/h, and whatever if you go onto a motorway. It keeps you in check and does not let you...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: What is the blockage to doing more?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Rural, urban, and all the rest of it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: It would almost have to be junction to junction because if you get on at the Naas road, get off at the Dunkettle interchange, and you have a 20-minute stop in the Barack Obama Plaza or wherever, you then say you can pump it up because you have had a 20-minute break. It probably needs to be camera to camera, from junction to junction, to prevent people thinking that, as long as they do the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I think Mr. Rowland is absolutely correct and, on the other end of it, if we all drove to Cork at 10 miles per hour, it would take us an awful lot longer and there would probably be fewer accidents. There is a balance to be struck. If I saw everybody driving at 50 km/h in the 50 km/h zones, that would be a great achievement, because at the moment they are not. Speed limits on very few of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: What about cyclists?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Are they generally younger people?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Three quarters, therefore, were over the age of 25.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: That figure would not be the same for the entire driver base.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: It is a much higher percentage, therefore, for that cohort than other cohorts.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The message we need to get out to every household, driver and pedestrian relates to where they are most at risk. It is in the evening, at the weekend and in rural areas, predominantly. That does not mean they are safe in the middle of Dublin city, but they will be relatively safer-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Road Safety: Discussion (27 Sep 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I accept that fatalities constitute a very small number of the overall driving cohort, but I think the figure we were given last year was that 27% of fatalities had not been wearing seatbelts. Is that still the case? Is there still serious non-compliance with the use of seatbelts or is it just that the people who end up in accidents are the very few people who are not wearing them? Is the...

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