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Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: Thank you Deputy Durkan, I agree with you. I call on Deputy Smith.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: We can complete it by the Thursday I am sure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: Yes, we will have to vote. We will be pre-emptive if we get into a discussion on that now because we have parked that until tomorrow. We will be circulating a document that will structure that. If it is okay, we will come back to that tomorrow.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: It has to cover the Citizens' Assembly's points. That has to be categorically clear. The report has to be read in conjunction with the debates.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: We will have to see how we go. However, the debates are part of the report. Realistically, we have to turn it around as quickly as we can within the confines. We have to accommodate colleagues as well as hear from all the witnesses and do our work as comprehensively as we can. Is everyone agreed on the approach? Agreed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: I welcome members and also viewers who may be watching the proceedings - I did not welcome them earlier on - to the Joint Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution. We will be holding two separate sessions this afternoon and we will first hear a presentation on termination in cases of foetal abnormality from a consultant in maternal foetal medicine. Our second session will be...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: I thank Mr. Thompson for his presentation. The first questioner for today is Deputy Kelleher. Does he wish to share time?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: The Deputy has another minute or so.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: We are very impressed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: I ask Dr. Thompson to be as brief as he can.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: Dr. Thompson does not favour the use of the expression "fatal foetal abnormality". What does he consider an appropriate term for people to use here? I know that this is a difficult question, but is there a more appropriate term?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: That is quite a mouthful in a debate.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: When we were putting a title on today's session, for example. What is the best language to use in the context of a debate? I know that this is not something that-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: What about "incompatible with life"? Is that not an expression that Dr. Thompson would favour?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: The question I am asking is obviously very difficult but I am wondering if there is better terminology that we could use in this debate.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: I call on Deputy Smith. She has ten minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: Senator Ned O'Sullivan has six minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: Mr. Thompson is not here to comment on the eighth amendment. He is here to give us medical evidence.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Termination in Cases of Foetal Abnormality: Mr. Peter Thompson, Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital (29 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: We asked Mr. Thompson to come here to give us evidence on the foetal abnormality area. I do not think we require him to answer questions about our laws here unless he feels he wants to.

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