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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: I will check, but I do not necessarily agree that that is the case in the way in which it has been delivered. The point I am making is that the letter was sitting on someone's desk. On whose desk was it? If it was sent to the then Minister, did he contact his officials? As a colleague of Mr. Griffin's in another Department said, this has a knock-on effect on other capital development...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: That is as I would expect and I appreciate that the Department did so.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: At a fraction of the cost.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: Why not tell it that? Why not have it on the record in order that it could be presented to us that Eir had made that contention and the Department did not agree with it based on A, B, and C, that the Department had met Eir and gone through them? The record will show that there was no response. It does not tell me or nobody has told me whom the then Minister contacted after receiving the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: I do not dispute that, but why was the letter not responded to to make that point? Why do I have to depend on Mr. Griffin’s word that that was the case?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: Did he-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: In that correspondence the then Minister did not reference the point made, namely, that if we were to step outside the way in which the Department wanted the State to do it, if it were to be done in a different way, it could be delivered at a fraction of the cost. There was nothing in writing to refute this.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: That may well be the case-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: It was incumbent on whoever had responsibility to categorically state it in response rather than leaving it hang. It was left to hang and has been added now by virtue of a figure being put on it, in addition to the fact that the 300,000 premises are now more or less dealt with. There is much more information and knowledge on how the project can be delivered. That also comes into play....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: What is the lower one?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: That are costing us €2 billion to mind the €1 billion we are investing. They are quare rules.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: We will have to agree to differ. As I said, I register my disappointment there was no adequate content in the then Minister’s letter to assure me or anybody belonging to me or I represent that a thorough investigation had taken place in order to respond to it in the way it should have been responded to. In conferring preferred bidder status on Granahan McCourt Capital, GMC, in the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: There is not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: Preferred bidder status does not mean anything legally or there is no-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: What does it mean?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: Is there a contractual obligation to complete the contract?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: Is there a contractual obligation to complete the contract on foot of conferring preferred bidder status?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: Mr. Griffin can say definitively that if the State was to withdraw from the process in favour of arranging a new tendering process to take advantage of Eir’s proposal, it would not be liable in any way, shape or form, to Granahan McCourt.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: National Broadband Plan: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Jul 2019)

Barry Cowen: Preferred bidders.

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